Mass of Acclamator?

Towlie · Post by **Towlie** » 2003-06-07 03:57pm

How much does/can this thing weigh? It has neutronium armor, carries a shitload of equipment, and lands on a planetary surface without caving in the ground. Can the mass be calculated from the max acceleration and reactor power? Can the legs carry and distribute its weight properly?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-06-07 04:09pm

It's mass could be estimated based on it's accel, if you knew a bit more about the engines. I'm working on calcs for an ISD that do that, based on Necronlord's very workable duplicator fuel theory. It would be easy enough to modify the calculator to churn out other figures for other ships.

And it doesn cave the ground in because it uses repulsors.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-06-07 04:10pm

Oh, and I personally estimate it at ranking in at ~1.3 trillion tons

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-06-07 04:14pm

Ender wrote:It's mass could be estimated based on it's accel, if you knew a bit more about the engines. I'm working on calcs for an ISD that do that, based on Necronlord's very workable duplicator fuel theory. It would be easy enough to modify the calculator to churn out other figures for other ships.

And it doesn cave the ground in because it uses repulsors.

I'm glad to see someone noticed.

Don't forget to cut the output by an order of magnitude as my first duplicator estimates were for an SSD or a Vengance producing new ships in it's cavity, so I multiplied the ISD peak power by ten.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-06-07 04:28pm

NecronLord wrote:
Ender wrote:It's mass could be estimated based on it's accel, if you knew a bit more about the engines. I'm working on calcs for an ISD that do that, based on Necronlord's very workable duplicator fuel theory. It would be easy enough to modify the calculator to churn out other figures for other ships.

And it doesn cave the ground in because it uses repulsors.
I'm glad to see someone noticed.

Theres a good sized chunk of support for it. Aside from the lack of sufficient fuel space otherwise, the ICS of the ISD shows that each engine has its own dedicated reactor that could power the duplicators and engine bell. Pluss the TF droid starfighter is noted as odd for having a solid fuel slug that it burns for thrust.

Don't forget to cut the output by an order of magnitude as my first duplicator estimates were for an SSD or a Vengance producing new ships in it's cavity, so I multiplied the ISD peak power by ten.

I'm approaching it by determining how much fuel must be expelled at relativistic velocities, then multiplying by C^2, then dividing by the efficiency.

For example 5 kg expelled at .9 c gets you the speed you want, and your duplicators have 70% efficiency in energy to mass conversion, you get 6.43E17 joules required. This should be easily achievable by the reactors.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-06-07 04:49pm

Ah. A long time since I've seen that diagram...

Towlie · Post by **Towlie** » 2003-06-07 11:59pm

I'm aware of the idea that the Acclamator's repulsors keeps it from caving in the ground. But are you telling me that the Acclamator's landing equipment is designed like a typical Starfleet system? Requiring constant active energy to maintain? The Acclamator is a freaking assault transport. It is in the line of fire. What happens if it gets hit by an ion cannon and the repulsors go? And how useful are the Acclamator's landing gear anyway?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-08 12:11am

Repulsors don't require a lot of power to run, and are fairly passive IIRC...

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-06-08 01:01am

Towlie wrote:I'm aware of the idea that the Acclamator's repulsors keeps it from caving in the ground. But are you telling me that the Acclamator's landing equipment is designed like a typical Starfleet system? Requiring constant active energy to maintain? The Acclamator is a freaking assault transport. It is in the line of fire. What happens if it gets hit by an ion cannon and the repulsors go? And how useful are the Acclamator's landing gear anyway?

In this case, there really is no alternative. However, repulsors appear to be reliable and safe enough to have floating platforms in the Coruscant sky 24/7.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-06-15 06:56pm

Ender wrote:It's mass could be estimated based on it's accel, if you knew a bit more about the engines. I'm working on calcs for an ISD that do that, based on Necronlord's very workable duplicator fuel theory. It would be easy enough to modify the calculator to churn out other figures for other ships.

Does it use a similar forumla as that of my jet power Exhaust power calculator?
http://www.hisdivineshadow.com/misc/acc ... _power.asp

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-06-15 07:42pm

Howedar wrote:
Towlie wrote:I'm aware of the idea that the Acclamator's repulsors keeps it from caving in the ground. But are you telling me that the Acclamator's landing equipment is designed like a typical Starfleet system? Requiring constant active energy to maintain? The Acclamator is a freaking assault transport. It is in the line of fire. What happens if it gets hit by an ion cannon and the repulsors go? And how useful are the Acclamator's landing gear anyway?
In this case, there really is no alternative. However, repulsors appear to be reliable and safe enough to have floating platforms in the Coruscant sky 24/7.

...That was once in a different thread. I'm confused.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-06-15 08:36pm

Ok, my memory failes me here slightly, the name Acclamator rings quite a large bell, but where it's from, etc, eludes me. Someone care to fill in the blanks?

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-06-15 08:57pm

Dorsk 81 wrote:Ok, my memory failes me here slightly, the name Acclamator rings quite a large bell, but where it's from, etc, eludes me. Someone care to fill in the blanks?

The Acclamator is the big dagger-shaped transport at the end of AotC. If that's what you meant.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-06-15 11:14pm

YT300000 wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote:Ok, my memory failes me here slightly, the name Acclamator rings quite a large bell, but where it's from, etc, eludes me. Someone care to fill in the blanks?
The Acclamator is the big dagger-shaped transport at the end of AotC. If that's what you meant.

I know the name Acclamator, but I didn't know it was from AotC, I thought it was from a novel, was Acclamator in another novel or was it discussed here? I'm sure I've heard the name before, but I though it was in a novel, maybe I'm just going mad

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2003-06-16 10:06am

The Acclamator has landing struts

Pg. 23 : Manufacturer: Rothana Heavy Engineering (subsidiary of KDY)
Make: /Acclamator/-class tran-galactic military transport ship
Dimensions: length 752m; width 460m; depth (with landing gear) 200m; depth (in flight) 183m
Max. acceleration (linear, in open space): 3,500 G
Power: main reactor peak 2e23 W; peak shielding 7e22 W
Hyperdrive: class 0.6; range 250,000 light-years fully fueled
Passengers: 16,000 clone troopers and support personnel
Armament: 12 quad turbolaser turrets (200 gigatons per shot); 24 laser cannons (6 megatons per shot); 4 missile/torpedo launch tubes