the 'New' look of star wars

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2002-09-13 09:18pm

Is it just me, or ever since the re-release of the original movies, has the toy industry ruined the image of Star Wars in the general public? I mean, they had all those incredibly corny 'saturday morning cartoon' cartoons featuring the lines of star wars toys that made it look like a (for lack of a better term) little kids show? I mean, whats the deal with the Gungans, the battle droids (remember all their stupid lines, such as Roger, Roger) and stupid junk like that. Battle droids could be cool, if they didnt have stupid voices, gungans could be an interesting specie if they didnt try to give them the stupid pronunciations, and the toy line would be very nice if they werent directed to the -8 year old crowd. Dont get me wrong, i love the movies, they just dont hold a candle to the first three. It has gotten too commercialized.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-13 09:21pm

Check out the thread about the guy being fired, He is responsible for those new Ship Designs, Thankfuly he's Back, Acclimators and 200 Giga-ton level Glory is here to stay

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-09-13 09:41pm

I'll happily state that the LAAT is the coolest looking vessel in the SW movies ever.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-13 09:58pm

Second there Wee. X-Wing is the BEST looking.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-13 10:27pm

NF_Utvol wrote:Is it just me, or ever since the re-release of the original movies, has the toy industry ruined the image of Star Wars in the general public? I mean, they had all those incredibly corny 'saturday morning cartoon' cartoons featuring the lines of star wars toys that made it look like a (for lack of a better term) little kids show? I mean, whats the deal with the Gungans, the battle droids (remember all their stupid lines, such as Roger, Roger) and stupid junk like that. Battle droids could be cool, if they didnt have stupid voices, gungans could be an interesting specie if they didnt try to give them the stupid pronunciations, and the toy line would be very nice if they werent directed to the -8 year old crowd. Dont get me wrong, i love the movies, they just dont hold a candle to the first three. It has gotten too commercialized.

The AOTC line is pretty cool and they are becoming more "playable" pretty cool*Smirks, at the Admiral Piett Figure standing up holding Blaster and Pointy Stick*

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-14 12:04am

You have a Piett figure?!?

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-14 01:04am

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:You have a Piett figure?!?

Oh, yeah the only Officer with the Imperial Hat(TM) and Pointy Sick

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-14 02:41am

First off, this is post count number three hundred!!!
::Starts shaking up beer cans and spraying people with it::
Hmm, I actually don't care about post count, but I figure this many is significant for something. ::shrugs::

Well, I'm coming over to your house to take him. He'll look kick ass next to Veers, Tarkin and force choked Motti. !!!

Post by **Dalton** » 2002-09-14 02:43am

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:Second there Wee. X-Wing is the BEST looking.

Bah, screw you both, the Falcon 0wnz0rs you.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-14 02:49am

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:First off, this is post count number three hundred!!!
::Starts shaking up beer cans and spraying people with it::
Hmm, I actually don't care about post count, but I figure this many is significant for something. ::shrugs::

Well, I'm coming over to your house to take him. He'll look kick ass next to Veers, Tarkin and force choked Motti. !!!

Not, on my watch

I can't find a Motti where you bought yours? I have a Tarkin, but no Veers cause I wasn't alive in '81. They were supposed too make a Ozzel and Needa figure, but never did.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-14 02:59am

Ah ah ah. I actually got my Motti at a local comic store. The owner is in his late twenties and probably knows as much about the OT as anyone, and a shit load of stuff from the early days. (duh, he was growing up right in the middle of it). Veers is the figure that comes with an AT AT. I also have AT AT pilot. I didn't know they were making a Needa or Ozzel. Piett I did know was supposed to be out there somewhere. Ozzel needs to be like Motti and choking. Heh. They could have Motti, Ozzel and Needa force choke three pack.

p.s. Motti's hand grips his collar as my Vader stands across from him with the force choke gesture. lol.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-09-14 03:31am

The best looking SW vessel is the original ISD 1 model, the Devastator.
It looked so big and mean in comparison to the tiny blocade runner....

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-14 04:53am

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:Ah ah ah. I actually got my Motti at a local comic store. The owner is in his late twenties and probably knows as much about the OT as anyone, and a shit load of stuff from the early days. (duh, he was growing up right in the middle of it). Veers is the figure that comes with an AT AT. I also have AT AT pilot. I didn't know they were making a Needa or Ozzel. Piett I did know was supposed to be out there somewhere. Ozzel needs to be like Motti and choking. Heh. They could have Motti, Ozzel and Needa force choke three pack.

p.s. Motti's hand grips his collar as my Vader stands across from him with the force choke gesture. lol.

I got my Piett here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/ just search "Captain Piett" and you wouldn't happen too be close too Louisiana because I might send a ring over? And yes I saw those Veer's only once quite awhile ago. The AT-AT's cost like $125 right now

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2002-09-14 05:02am

and the toy line would be very nice if they werent directed to the -8 year old crowd.

Duh. They are toys, 8 year olds are part of the key demographic.

Dont get me wrong, i love the movies, they just dont hold a candle to the first three. It has gotten too commercialized.

Serious question, how old are you? I'm just woundering if you were around for the first run of Star Wars. If you think it's too commercialized now, you ether forgot, or weren't around for the first run. Besides whats wrong with commercialization? That's how companys, and especially movies with a toy line tie-in make their money.

I remember when I was a kid, Star Wars commercials were all over the place. There were a hell of a lot more toys back then, then now. Not to mention cookies, dixie cups, underroos, coloring book, toothbrushes, soap,...ect.

By the way, I like the new figuers better then the ones we had. They look alot better.

Anyways, to awnser your question:

Is it just me, or ever since the re-release of the original movies, has the toy industry ruined the image of Star Wars in the general public?

Nope. Star Wars has always been like this. It's just nowdays( for some reason I can't understand) people damn anything that's commercialized, reguardless if it's good or not. Actualy I do understand why people do this, I just think it's a stupid reason.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-09-14 02:17pm

Still, it gets quite embarrasing when you're buying something, and you're surrounded by little kids. Something that's too commercialized ends up being a fad.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-14 02:27pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Still, it gets quite embarrasing when you're buying something, and you're surrounded by little kids. Something that's too commercialized ends up being a fad.

Oh, yeah I know what you mean. I have too sneak into the toy section then while I'm going thru the SW figures there is a little more than glancing eyes. Maybe when I'm 20 they'll ask me if I'm too old for action figures.

Smalleyjedi · Post by **Smalleyjedi** » 2002-09-14 04:08pm

i get wierd looks when i buy sw legos.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-09-14 04:16pm

I don't care if people look st00pid when I buy my SW toys. I simply don't give a shit about what they think.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-14 09:03pm

Well, when your bigger than everyone else, your friend causes siezemographs to register in california when he walks, and your cousin looks like a trench coat postal employee your not only used to getting looks, but seeing ppl flee in terror. muwhahahahaha

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-14 10:14pm

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:Well, when your bigger than everyone else, your friend causes siezemographs to register in california when he walks, and your cousin looks like a trench coat postal employee your not only used to getting looks, but seeing ppl flee in terror. muwhahahahaha

Subtletly must not be one of your virtures.

j/k

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-14 10:40pm

Look at my vehicle of choice...

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-09-15 06:03pm

The very thing that made the Empire so attractive in the original trilogy was the size and brute force of its ships designed specifically for war. The Death Star was, in my opinion, designed mostly as a psychological weapon, much as the nuclear bomb here has become (look what we have the power to do to you if you irritate us).

The Empire is also subjected to a rigid military regime, under which dissension is quickly and mercilessly crushed. In comparison, we see the Rebels, who are feel-gooders trying to overthrow the Empire.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2002-09-16 03:42am

When I first saw the designs for Episode 1 ships, I actually thought they looked far more advanced and high-tech than the ships from the Original Trilogy (yes, even the clumsy-looking Neimoidian warships!), and I found that kind of strange, as I actually would expect them to look more "primitive" than the ships seen in the original trilogy.

Of course, back then I adhered to the "Looks Are Everything" fallacy. Today, I realize that a Galaxy-class starship is NOT more advanced than a Borg Cube!!

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-09-16 09:47am

The original ships were just badass, cause they resembled real life military hardware. The ISDs just looked like.... well, dreadnoughts....

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-09-16 12:56pm

KhyronTheBackstabber wrote:
and the toy line would be very nice if they werent directed to the -8 year old crowd.
Duh. They are toys, 8 year olds are part of the key demographic.

Dont get me wrong, i love the movies, they just dont hold a candle to the first three. It has gotten too commercialized.
Serious question, how old are you? I'm just woundering if you were around for the first run of Star Wars. If you think it's too commercialized now, you ether forgot, or weren't around for the first run. Besides whats wrong with commercialization? That's how companys, and especially movies with a toy line tie-in make their money.

I remember when I was a kid, Star Wars commercials were all over the place. There were a hell of a lot more toys back then, then now. Not to mention cookies, dixie cups, underroos, coloring book, toothbrushes, soap,...ect.

By the way, I like the new figuers better then the ones we had. They look alot better.

Anyways, to awnser your question:
Is it just me, or ever since the re-release of the original movies, has the toy industry ruined the image of Star Wars in the general public?

Nope. Star Wars has always been like this. It's just nowdays( for some reason I can't understand) people damn anything that's commercialized, reguardless if it's good or not. Actualy I do understand why people do this, I just think it's a stupid reason.

Threads like these (and the "Republic Cruiser" one also by NF_Utvol) are why I tend to avoid the Pure Star Wars Forum.

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