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Quote about Blasters and Lasers I'm trying to find :(

Posted: 2003-06-16 03:52pm
by mauldooku
Grrr...I'm debating this idiot trekkie who insists that, although TurboLasers are not lasers, blasters are. There's a quote from one of the Junior Jedi Knights books I've been looking for...it's been ages since I've read it, so my memory is a bit fuzzy and the book seems to have vanished from my collection...it's that one about Vader's Fortress, and one of the characters makes a comment about how the defense lasers aren't blasters...I don't want to waste anyone's time actually looking for it, but if anyone knows what I'm talking about/remembers it off the top of their head could you help out a fellow flamewarrior in need?

Posted: 2003-06-16 03:54pm
by Howedar
Who cares? Let them think they're lasers. Its not as if you're going to be firing an E-11 against a GCS.

Posted: 2003-06-16 04:19pm
by Master of Ossus
Here are some of the quotes regarding the defenses. The last few are the relevant ones.
"'This takes us to the back of Bast Castle. The last time Master Skywalker was here, there were automatic lasers firing on anything that moved in front of the fortress. He knew about this rear stairway and suggested it might be safer'" (37).
"'No laser blasts,' she said. 'That's a good sign. Maybe the Imperials turned the defenses off when they left. Artoo, we'll need you to open the cyberlock on this door'" (40)
"Without warning, bright streaks of laser fire criss-crossed the courtyard" (42). [Editor's Note: Gotta admire the writing style in these books, though.]
Another bright streak burned across the air in front of Anakin. 'Blaster bolts!' Uldir yelped in his ear.

'Yeay, that's exactly what my brother Jacen always says,' Anakin muttered. 'Only this time, they're lasers, not blasters'" (42).

"'I think we set off some sort of intruder alarm.' Tahiri said. [Editor's note: Damn she's sharp.]

[...]

'Do you think you can use that little gadget that Uncle Luke installed in your head to deflect some of the laser bolts so that one of us can get in and disable the lasers?'

'But that little mirror can't protect Artoo from blaster bolts,' Tahiri objected. Her bright green eyes were wide with alarm.

'That's true,' Anakin said. 'But these are lasers. Lasers are just concentrated light. A mirror can deflect laser beams. Artoo should be fine--as long as he doesn't get shot.'

Before Anakin could say any more, Artoo-Detoo beeped once again and rolled into action. Laser blasts shot toward the little droid as he trundled into the huge entry area. He reflected the first and second bolts back in the direction of the lasers that had shot them. To Anakin's surprise, one of the deflected blasts struck the laser that had fired it. The laser exploded with muffled sizzles and thumps. ARtoo moved forward and caught the third bolt on his reflector as well" (45).
You should also use the quotes from EGWT that state that blasters and turbolasers operate on the same principle, etc. etc. etc. This is pretty unequivocal, though. Good hunting.

Posted: 2003-06-16 07:19pm
by YT300000

Posted: 2003-06-16 10:11pm
by mauldooku
Ossus thank you very much :)

YT, I was trying to see if I could beat him without refering to Wong's site...after all, what's the use of using a rocket launcher to kill a bug?

I sent those quotes to him, and he actually backed down.

BTW, Ossus, where do you find quotes so quickly? I didn't think Wong had included EU information on his Database, and that's the only place I could think of....

Posted: 2003-06-16 10:31pm
by Master of Ossus
Badme wrote:BTW, Ossus, where do you find quotes so quickly? I didn't think Wong had included EU information on his Database, and that's the only place I could think of....
:oops: :oops: :oops: I have a copy of the Junior Jedi Knights series on my bookshelf with all the other SW books. :oops: :oops: :oops:

Actually, I'm glad you asked. I think it's the first time I've ever had to refer to those books to look up something. To be honest, I've never read them and I bought them so I could refer to them if I needed to.

That's a useful quote to keep around, though, so I'm glad you pointed it out for me.

Posted: 2003-06-16 10:45pm
by Connor MacLeod
Master of Ossus wrote:
Badme wrote:BTW, Ossus, where do you find quotes so quickly? I didn't think Wong had included EU information on his Database, and that's the only place I could think of....
:oops: :oops: :oops: I have a copy of the Junior Jedi Knights series on my bookshelf with all the other SW books. :oops: :oops: :oops:

Actually, I'm glad you asked. I think it's the first time I've ever had to refer to those books to look up something. To be honest, I've never read them and I bought them so I could refer to them if I needed to.

That's a useful quote to keep around, though, so I'm glad you pointed it out for me.
So? I bought the YJK ones too, never could find the Anakin ones.

Can't fault someone who adheres to some thorough research :)

Re: Quote about Blasters and Lasers I'm trying to find :(

Posted: 2003-06-16 11:08pm
by Mad
Badme wrote:Grrr...I'm debating this idiot trekkie who insists that, although TurboLasers are not lasers, blasters are.
Here's another quote that can help you out, as well:
Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones Novellization, page 342 wrote:Count Dooku was a fencer, following an older fighting style, one more effective against lightsabers than against projectile weapons like blasters.


I've never seen laser beams called projectile weapons, so it's safe to say that blasters aren't lasers based on that quote.

Posted: 2003-06-16 11:11pm
by Ender
Thank you KJA for showing once again you know fuck all about physics. Yes, a laser beam of sufficient strength to kill a man will not do the slightest bit of damage to a piece of glass and metal. Incompetent ass.

Posted: 2003-06-16 11:14pm
by Master of Ossus
Ender wrote:Thank you KJA for sowing once again you know fuck all about physics. Yes, a laser beam of sufficient strength to kill a man will not do the slightest bit of damage to a piece of glass and metal. Incompetent ass.
LOL. This is one of his weaker moments, but to be fair his wife helped him write this intellectual vomit.

Posted: 2003-06-16 11:15pm
by Ender
Master of Ossus wrote:
Ender wrote:Thank you KJA for showing once again you know fuck all about physics. Yes, a laser beam of sufficient strength to kill a man will not do the slightest bit of damage to a piece of glass and metal. Incompetent ass.
LOL. This is one of his weaker moments, but to be fair his wife helped him write this intellectual vomit.
That explains the higher quality compared to his regular work.

Posted: 2003-06-16 11:19pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I wonder where she was when he wrote Darksaber...

Not to say that DS was absolutely horrible, only that occasionally he'd hit you with a passage that made you feel stupid for just reading it.

Posted: 2003-06-16 11:24pm
by YT300000
Badme wrote:Ossus thank you very much :)

YT, I was trying to see if I could beat him without refering to Wong's site...after all, what's the use of using a rocket launcher to kill a bug?

I sent those quotes to him, and he actually backed down.

BTW, Ossus, where do you find quotes so quickly? I didn't think Wong had included EU information on his Database, and that's the only place I could think of....
That reminds me of the Monty Python sketch in which they go mosquito hunting with rocket launchers and bazookas. Sort of like SW vs ST...

Posted: 2003-06-16 11:35pm
by Ender
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I wonder where she was when he wrote Darksaber...

Not to say that DS was absolutely horrible, only that occasionally he'd hit you with a passage that made you feel stupid for just reading it.
Like the bit from the dedication to the Author's bio?

Re: Quote about Blasters and Lasers I'm trying to find :(

Posted: 2003-06-17 01:07am
by Slartibartfast
Badme wrote:Grrr...I'm debating this idiot trekkie who insists that, although TurboLasers are not lasers, blasters are. There's a quote from one of the Junior Jedi Knights books I've been looking for...it's been ages since I've read it, so my memory is a bit fuzzy and the book seems to have vanished from my collection...it's that one about Vader's Fortress, and one of the characters makes a comment about how the defense lasers aren't blasters...I don't want to waste anyone's time actually looking for it, but if anyone knows what I'm talking about/remembers it off the top of their head could you help out a fellow flamewarrior in need?
Unless they're plugging a navigational deflector dish in somebody's ass, whether blasters are lasers or not is irrelevant ;)

SAT Time

Posted: 2003-06-17 03:02am
by SPOOFE
Blaster : Laser :: Firearm : Impact hammer