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IMAX AOTC to be shortened

Posted: 2002-09-17 09:45am
by Tsyroc
I read this on another site but the story originated with the Force.net

http://www.theforce.net/episode2/index.html#18113
IMAX Clones Is Bigger But Shorter
Mon, Sep 16, 02 01:08:45 PM EDT

The Jordan's IMAX Theater is reporting that AOTC will be cut by 23 minutes to conform to most IMAX systems:
The IMAX edition, which will be distributed by Twentieth Century Fox "exclusively to IMAX theaters," will be trimmed from its original 143 minutes to fit the 120-minute capability of most IMAX platter systems. A LucasFilm spokesperson told LFX that the editing will "maintain the integrity" of the story.
Maybe they can cut out some of the Threepio slapstick humor? :?

Posted: 2002-09-17 09:56am
by Kelly Antilles
You know, with as "great" as IMAX is supposed to be, you would think they would be completely digital. I don't understand why they have 120 minute platters. That's pretty rediculous. Let's see, they'll cut the chase with Zam down to maybe two minutes, chasing Dooku will be shorter... maybe they'll cut all the stuff on Naboo.

I hate when people mess with something that was already shown one way. :(

Posted: 2002-09-17 10:44am
by greenmm
23 minutes cut?

That's it, I'm never seeing it in IMAX.

Of course, given the price, I wouldn't anyway.

Posted: 2002-09-17 10:49am
by Stravo
That's odd, I saw LOTR on the IMAX here in NYC and it wasn't edited at all. I know this because I had seen the movie four times before :D So I wonder if it's only in certain IMAXs. I hope so because I'm not looking forward to paying for AOTC Lite. Althoug, I wouldn;t mind the fireplace scene mysteriosly disappearing.

Posted: 2002-09-17 10:55am
by Tsyroc
Stravo wrote:That's odd, I saw LOTR on the IMAX here in NYC and it wasn't edited at all. I know this because I had seen the movie four times before :D So I wonder if it's only in certain IMAXs. I hope so because I'm not looking forward to paying for AOTC Lite. Althoug, I wouldn;t mind the fireplace scene mysteriosly disappearing.
On the site I first heard about the length cutting of AOTC it was stated that the 120 minute limiting factor doesn't apply to all IMAX theaters only certain ones.

Posted: 2002-09-17 02:09pm
by Lord_Vader
Isnt the fireplace scene where Padme wears that um rather revealing dress? If thats the case why would anyone want it gone? :P

Posted: 2002-09-17 02:52pm
by Kelly Antilles
Lord_Vader wrote:Isnt the fireplace scene where Padme wears that um rather revealing dress? If thats the case why would anyone want it gone? :P
*sigh* Men.

The whole scene was worthless and BORING. All of the stuff on Naboo seemed to be put there to try and bring chicks to the theater. *buzz* Wrong answer. Yes, I'm a woman and I still thought those were the most boring scenes in the entire movie. Every time I saw it, I fell asleep during those scenes. Pretty bad when a Star Wars movie puts you to sleep.

Posted: 2002-09-17 03:36pm
by aerius
In any case it shouldn't be too hard to find 23 minutes of senseless yapping, romance, and Jar-Jar Binks scenes to cut out.

Posted: 2002-09-17 05:43pm
by Oberleutnant
IMO there was nothing wrong with those few Jar-Jar scenes in EPII. They were extremely important for the story and it was obvious that our adorable Gungan had matured a lot since we saw him last time.

Posted: 2002-09-17 06:18pm
by Raptor 597
Oberleutnant wrote:IMO there was nothing wrong with those few Jar-Jar scenes in EPII. They were extremely important for the story and it was obvious that our adorable Gungan had matured a lot since we saw him last time.
Matured? What you tripping on cause I want some. :D

Posted: 2002-09-17 09:29pm
by Cal Wright
Kelly Antilles wrote:
Lord_Vader wrote:Isnt the fireplace scene where Padme wears that um rather revealing dress? If thats the case why would anyone want it gone? :P
*sigh* Men.

The whole scene was worthless and BORING. All of the stuff on Naboo seemed to be put there to try and bring chicks to the theater. *buzz* Wrong answer. Yes, I'm a woman and I still thought those were the most boring scenes in the entire movie. Every time I saw it, I fell asleep during those scenes. Pretty bad when a Star Wars movie puts you to sleep.
That was in no way pointless. It showed exactly what was going to go wrong. Two people, young, in love and deep in responsibilities. Padme understands what would happen if they did this, Anakin needs convincing. The whole point of that was to show that it would be overly wrong for them to even have a relationship much less get married like they did at the end.

Posted: 2002-09-17 10:18pm
by Anarchist Bunny
Yeah, if you don't like tits, some of the movie can get really really really boring. Ofcourse if you can just turn them out, and check her out, the movie wasn't really that bad.

Posted: 2002-09-18 12:16pm
by Crown
I am of two minds with this. On the one hand super huge screen! On the other, Lucas shot it all on digital cameras and no matter how much you try, it just doesn't convert well to film. The picture losses 'sharpness' and the image in general looks 'grany'. So I'm not sure that I would like to see it even larger...

Posted: 2002-09-20 11:55am
by phongn
Kelly Antilles wrote:You know, with as "great" as IMAX is supposed to be, you would think they would be completely digital. I don't understand why they have 120 minute platters. That's pretty rediculous. Let's see, they'll cut the chase with Zam down to maybe two minutes, chasing Dooku will be shorter... maybe they'll cut all the stuff on Naboo.

I hate when people mess with something that was already shown one way. :(
There is no digital projector capable outputting to an IMAX screen, unless you like like seeing the individual pixels and blocking artifacts (the latter of which were visible in the original release).

Posted: 2002-09-20 11:56am
by phongn
Crown wrote:I am of two minds with this. On the one hand super huge screen! On the other, Lucas shot it all on digital cameras and no matter how much you try, it just doesn't convert well to film. The picture losses 'sharpness' and the image in general looks 'grany'. So I'm not sure that I would like to see it even larger...
OTOH, the film release of AOTC wasn't done very well - I've heard that they used a high-speed film to decrease the time it took, thus adding greatly to the grain. For the IMAX release, I seriously doubt that Lucasfilm wouldn't try to do the best possible release.

Posted: 2002-09-20 06:57pm
by Eleas
Kelly Antilles wrote:
Lord_Vader wrote:Isnt the fireplace scene where Padme wears that um rather revealing dress? If thats the case why would anyone want it gone? :P
*sigh* Men.
No, there was only one male in that scene, and I doubt he'd qualify for that epithet. :)
The whole scene was worthless and BORING. All of the stuff on Naboo seemed to be put there to try and bring chicks to the theater. *buzz* Wrong answer. Yes, I'm a woman and I still thought those were the most boring scenes in the entire movie. Every time I saw it, I fell asleep during those scenes. Pretty bad when a Star Wars movie puts you to sleep.
I thought the Sound of Music part was horrible. As for the fireplace scene... well, the meadows paled in comparison.

Posted: 2002-09-20 06:59pm
by Eleas
Crown wrote:I am of two minds with this. On the one hand super huge screen! On the other, Lucas shot it all on digital cameras and no matter how much you try, it just doesn't convert well to film. The picture losses 'sharpness' and the image in general looks 'grany'. So I'm not sure that I would like to see it even larger...
Am I the only one to think SW shouldn't be too crisp? The softed look of ANH was just right, IMO.

Posted: 2002-09-20 11:14pm
by Crown
There is a difference between softness and grainy. When I say grainy, it's like you actually see the picture on the screen made up of tiny crystals, and it just looks weird. Like this;

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And there are hundreds of them all over the screen, the same could be said for Black Hawk Down. And not to mention that to focus the sucker is like trying to balance a knife on a string!

Posted: 2002-09-21 07:09am
by Eleas
Crown wrote:There is a difference between softness and grainy. When I say grainy, it's like you actually see the picture on the screen made up of tiny crystals, and it just looks weird. Like this;

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And there are hundreds of them all over the screen, the same could be said for Black Hawk Down. And not to mention that to focus the sucker is like trying to balance a knife on a string!
Oooh. I see the problem.

Posted: 2002-09-21 11:28am
by Crown
Eleas yep :wink:

And I am sorry, but you will now 'see' this problem more often now that it has been called to your attention. That's one of the draw backs in being a projectionist, you can never truely enjoy watching a movie because your mind and eye is trained to watch the print quality fist and foremost! Hey want me to ruin your watching experience with the Star Wars original trilogy too? Tell me and I will tell you what to watch out for, it's actually quite funny, but I think after you realise it, you would end up hating me for it. One of the reason's why friends don't go and see movies with me!

Posted: 2002-09-21 06:34pm
by Eleas
Crown wrote:Eleas yep :wink:

And I am sorry, but you will now 'see' this problem more often now that it has been called to your attention. That's one of the draw backs in being a projectionist, you can never truely enjoy watching a movie because your mind and eye is trained to watch the print quality fist and foremost! Hey want me to ruin your watching experience with the Star Wars original trilogy too? Tell me and I will tell you what to watch out for, it's actually quite funny, but I think after you realise it, you would end up hating me for it. One of the reason's why friends don't go and see movies with me!
Doubtful. I can take anything you dish out, boy. Actually, look at it realistically. This is a forum where we dissect everything about the movies. You think I haven't learned suspension of disbelief after three years on ASVS and sundry other boards? ;)

Posted: 2002-09-21 07:34pm
by Enlightenment
Eleas wrote:You think I haven't learned suspension of disbelief after three years on ASVS and sundry other boards? ;)
Random tangent:

The one thing that most wrecks suspension of disbelief is getting serious about writing your own fiction. I've never been able to look at SF the same way ever since I started writing my own novel. Moral: if you want to keep your suspension of disbelief, don't start writing.

Posted: 2002-09-21 07:36pm
by Master of Ossus
Part of what I do in my writing in someone else's universe is that I write it as if it were an historical fiction piece. You simply must maintain continuity with that person's universe or your book loses all credibility. The other thing is that you should always read things twice. Once maintaining suspension of disbelief and just having fun with the words. The second time you analyze everything. Why does he have characters moving in this direction? Why does she have this character say what she does? Why does he order things the way he does? It works great.

Posted: 2002-09-21 07:54pm
by Kelly Antilles
Eleas wrote:
Kelly Antilles wrote: *sigh* Men.
No, there was only one male in that scene, and I doubt he'd qualify for that epithet. :)
I meant that as a generalization that all men want to see Natalie Portman's breasts. ;)
I thought the Sound of Music part was horrible. As for the fireplace scene... well, the meadows paled in comparison.
Yeah, what was up with that. Geez. Everyone in the theater started singing at that scene. Woke me up. ;) How inconsiderate.

Posted: 2002-09-21 09:46pm
by Eleas
Kelly Antilles wrote:No, there was only one male in that scene, and I doubt he'd qualify for that epithet. :)
I meant that as a generalization that all men want to see Natalie Portman's breasts. ;) [/quote]

Help, I'm being oppressed! :)
I thought the Sound of Music part was horrible. As for the fireplace scene... well, the meadows paled in comparison.
Yeah, what was up with that. Geez. Everyone in the theater started singing at that scene. Woke me up. ;) How inconsiderate.
On the other hand... the rest of the movie just blew me away. "I am disappointed in you Obi-Wan... Qui-Gon had such high regard for you. Surely you can kill an old vampire like myself?"

Uh, maybe I misremembered that part...