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What IS "The Force"?

Posted: 2003-06-30 06:31am
by keflex
I'm curious; I'd posted this question in another thread, but it was moved to a different forum and subsequently sunk under 4 pages of posts.

What is "The Force" and how is the manipulation of it possible by single celled organisms in the bloodstream?

Is "The Force" mystical in nature, or does it have a grounding in physics (aka: one of the fundamental forces of the universe)?

If mystical, how is usage of "The Force" reconciled w/ the necessary presence of midichlorians?

If a fundamental force of physics, how is that reconciled w/ the necessary presence of midichlorians (which allow manipulation of this fundamental force)?

Are there any microbiologists/physicists on board that could puzzle this one out?

If there's reference material that addresses this directly, I would appreciate a link.

Posted: 2003-06-30 06:40am
by Sea Skimmer
Midichlorians are not necessary in any way, note the multi ton inert objects lifted with the force, they simply are an indicator of force potential.

Posted: 2003-06-30 10:24am
by Emperor Palpatine
Speaking of The Force, does anyone here know of any editorials or commentaries regarding midicholorians, balance to the Force, or the Force as a whole?

Emperor

Posted: 2003-06-30 12:51pm
by keflex
Sea Skimmer wrote:Midichlorians are not necessary in any way, note the multi ton inert objects lifted with the force, they simply are an indicator of force potential.
Ok, since that explains the midichlorian relationship (although not really their purpose for being in the force user's bloodstream), what IS "The Force"?

Posted: 2003-06-30 03:51pm
by Slartibartfast
It's a mystical thingy.

Posted: 2003-06-30 04:04pm
by YT300000
Its an energy field generated by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us, binds the galaxy.

Posted: 2003-06-30 06:54pm
by Drooling Iguana
It's like duct tape. It's got a dark side, a light side, and it binds the galaxy togeather.

Posted: 2003-06-30 07:13pm
by Darth Yoshi
That's a lie. Duct tape can fix anything. The Force can't.

Posted: 2003-06-30 07:28pm
by Robert Treder
Emperor Palpatine wrote:Speaking of The Force, does anyone here know of any editorials or commentaries regarding midicholorians, balance to the Force, or the Force as a whole?

Emperor
Saxton's word on Midichlorians

Posted: 2003-06-30 07:59pm
by YT300000
Darth Yoshi wrote:That's a lie. Duct tape can fix anything. The Force can't.
Name one thing the Force can't fix.

Posted: 2003-06-30 08:24pm
by Darth Yoshi
The Millenium Falcon,

Posted: 2003-06-30 08:43pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Drooling Iguana wrote:It's like duct tape. It's got a dark side, a light side, and it binds the galaxy togeather.
Except that only one side of duct tape is sticky. :P

Posted: 2003-06-30 08:44pm
by YT300000
Darth Yoshi wrote:The Millenium Falcon,
Well, just telekinetically hold all the parts together, and it works fine. :)

Posted: 2003-06-30 11:00pm
by Darksider
YT300000 wrote:
Darth Yoshi wrote:The Millenium Falcon,
Well, just telekinetically hold all the parts together, and it works fine. :)
What?????

You mean somone wasn't already telekenetically holding that rusted peice of junk together?????
:lol:

Posted: 2003-07-01 06:25am
by keflex
So "The Force" is mystical in nature and not grounded in physics (SW physics, at least)?

Posted: 2003-07-01 06:45am
by Shinova
keflex wrote:So "The Force" is mystical in nature and not grounded in physics (SW physics, at least)?
It's pure magic, with no real grounds in physics whatsoever (the midochlorian bit diminishes the Force's appeal and is a sorry attempt to physics-ify it in my opinion).

That's what I think.

Posted: 2003-07-01 12:01pm
by YT300000
keflex wrote:So "The Force" is mystical in nature and not grounded in physics (SW physics, at least)?
There is a book called The Science of Star Wars (or the Physics, I'm not sure). It has a chapter on the Force, and some interesting theories.

But that book is to be taken with a grain of salt. The author thinks that TLs are lasers, because they have the word laser in them.

Posted: 2003-07-04 10:33am
by Peregrin Toker
YT300000 wrote:
There is a book called The Science of Star Wars (or the Physics, I'm not sure). It has a chapter on the Force, and some interesting theories.
I don't recall such a book. However, Richard Feynman has written two books on sci-fi realism called "The Physics Of Star Trek" and "Beyond Star Trek." The latter probably addresses the physics of other sci-fi franchises than ST.

Posted: 2003-07-04 12:05pm
by YT300000
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
YT300000 wrote:
There is a book called The Science of Star Wars (or the Physics, I'm not sure). It has a chapter on the Force, and some interesting theories.
I don't recall such a book. However, Richard Feynman has written two books on sci-fi realism called "The Physics Of Star Trek" and "Beyond Star Trek." The latter probably addresses the physics of other sci-fi franchises than ST.
I saw it in my library. Black cover, with stars, and two red and blue lightsabre blades crossed.

Posted: 2003-07-07 01:09am
by Shogoki
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:It's like duct tape. It's got a dark side, a light side, and it binds the galaxy togeather.
Except that only one side of duct tape is sticky. :P
Well, the dark side of the force is sticky.

Posted: 2003-07-07 02:01pm
by Darth Mall
Yeah, once you get stuck to it its almost impossible to get it off :wink:

but YT I saw that book to and it quite a bit off at parts