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There's been some talk that the Jedi order was suffering from within by AOTC, suffering from their own arrogance. Do you suppose that this arrogance was a palpable sensation to the citizens en masse? Think of scene when the shapeshifter is delimbed and the club patrons are told to go back to their drinks. Did the patrons comply because they were "passively" coerced, or because they want nothing to do with the Jedi on standing principle, much like most people today would rather avoid a meeting with a cop than otherwise?

Personally, I think it's absolutely abhorent for Obi-Wan to tell the death stick dealer to go back and rethink his life. Aparrently, the Jedi can perform this extreme invasion on a person whenever he sees fit, as Qui-Gon's repeated demonstrations in TPM allude to. I'll bet that Yoda and his council members don't ever go on record as saying that they invade the thoughts and minds of citizens. I can't believe that the Republic would stand for it, being a free society and all.

How do you think John Q. Public feels about the Jedi? As the galactic protectors of peace and liberty or as Big Brother?

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Would it been better if Obi wan delimbed the Death stick dealer also.

Maybe an item called a Death Stick was some kind of candy other than a deadly narcotic.....

Obi gave the dealer a second chance, to get his life in order. He could have simply arrested him and allow him to face whatever sentence dealing Deathstick could have earn the dealer.

The reaction of the crowd to Jedi business would be no different if two police officers told a crowd police business, since basically the Jedi were peace officers.

the fact that jedi get intense training since birth in the use of and proper handling of force would trend to insure that they donot abuse their power. Remember it how and why you use the force that determine whether you are a Jedi or dark jedi.

we donot see the jedi using their power to run the Republic, instead they are servants of the Republic.

While the fact that they do yield powers that place them above the masses of the republic would make the average person on their guard, but it would not be the fear that Throught police in a facist goverment would generate.

First of all, the Jedi were so clearly suffering from arrogance during AotC (and, to a lesser extent, in TPM), that most of my articles on the movies don't even bother to cite examples of this behavior. However, I don't think that Anakin had to use the Force to get the patrons to stop paying attention to them.

Death sticks, according to official evidence, are akin to cigarrettes on steroids and made illegal. They are illicit narcotics, and Obi-Wan would have been able to arrest the youth if he had wanted to. Instead, his attempt to reform the youth, IMO, is a counter-example to arrogance. Obi-Wan appears to have recognized that he might not be able to reform the youth, but that the young man might be able to reform himself through thinking about his situation.

Slowhand wrote:Personally, I think it's absolutely abhorent for Obi-Wan to tell the death stick dealer to go back and rethink his life.

But it was the funniest part of the movie.

Don't some antismoking brits call cigs/fags 'deathsticks'

Master of Ossus wrote:First of all, the Jedi were so clearly suffering from arrogance during AotC (and, to a lesser extent, in TPM), that most of my articles on the movies don't even bother to cite examples of this behavior. However, I don't think that Anakin had to use the Force to get the patrons to stop paying attention to them.

The novelization suggests he did this in fact.

Darth Servo wrote:

Slowhand wrote:Personally, I think it's absolutely abhorent for Obi-Wan to tell the death stick dealer to go back and rethink his life.

But it was the funniest part of the movie.

Dunno, the whole Anakin/Amidala bit had me laughing.

Connor MacLeod wrote:

Darth Servo wrote:

Slowhand wrote:Personally, I think it's absolutely abhorent for Obi-Wan to tell the death stick dealer to go back and rethink his life.

But it was the funniest part of the movie.

Dunno, the whole Anakin/Amidala bit had me laughing.

Uh, purposefully funny part?