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Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-10 09:25am
by Emperor Palpatine
Just two questions:
1) How did the Imperial Walkers (ATAT) get onto Hoth?
If I'm correct, the Rebel's ships were only able to leave when the planetary shields were lowered. However, before the lowering, the Imperials were already on the planet! How did they get through the shields? Surely the shields would have prevented the Imperials' entrance when they were up. Otherwise, wouldn't it be useless if it could only withstand weapons fire?
Comments and thoughts?
2) Were officers awarded with medals in the Imperial Navy? So far, we do not see any evidence of medals or other things awarded for their good work. Any sources (other than the movies') showing such awards existing? Or were the only awards simply promotions?
E.D.C.P
Re: Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-10 09:47am
by Mr Flibble
Emperor Palpatine wrote:Just two questions:
1) How did the Imperial Walkers (ATAT) get onto Hoth?
If I'm correct, the Rebel's ships were only able to leave when the planetary shields were lowered. However, before the lowering, the Imperials were already on the planet! How did they get through the shields? Surely the shields would have prevented the Imperials' entrance when they were up. Otherwise, wouldn't it be useless if it could only withstand weapons fire?
IIRC The shield on Hoth was not a full planetary shield, just a theatre shiled. It was much like an umbrella. So the Empire landed the AT-AT's outside the shield radius and they travelled on land and passed under it.
As for question 2 I have no idea.
Posted: 2003-07-10 10:52am
by Emperor Palpatine
So, these shields were much like the ones used by the Gungans in EP1?
E.D.C.P
Posted: 2003-07-10 11:03am
by Death from the Sea
Emperor Palpatine wrote:So, these shields were much like the ones used by the Gungans in EP1?
E.D.C.P
yes, but on a much larger scale.
Re: Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-10 12:10pm
by Dorsk 81
Emperor Palpatine wrote:Just two questions:
2) Were officers awarded with medals in the Imperial Navy? So far, we do not see any evidence of medals or other things awarded for their good work. Any sources (other than the movies') showing such awards existing? Or were the only awards simply promotions?
E.D.C.P
Yep, I'm not entierly sure what game it is, one of the x-wing vs tie fighter games I think you got awarded medals, I even got one from Palpatine himself!
Re: Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-10 12:13pm
by Master of Ossus
Emperor Palpatine wrote:Just two questions:
1) How did the Imperial Walkers (ATAT) get onto Hoth?
If I'm correct, the Rebel's ships were only able to leave when the planetary shields were lowered. However, before the lowering, the Imperials were already on the planet! How did they get through the shields? Surely the shields would have prevented the Imperials' entrance when they were up. Otherwise, wouldn't it be useless if it could only withstand weapons fire?
The shield only protected "an area of the sixth planet of the Hoth system." The walkers landed outside of the shields and marched in, just as the battle droids were able to march through the Gungan shield in TPM.
Comments and thoughts?
2) Were officers awarded with medals in the Imperial Navy? So far, we do not see any evidence of medals or other things awarded for their good work. Any sources (other than the movies') showing such awards existing? Or were the only awards simply promotions?
E.D.C.P
WEG makes reference to some medals, and some official sources credit various officers with having received medals, but the most explicit use of decorations no doubt come from the X-Wing and TIE Fighter video games, in which medals are frequently given to capable fliers.
Posted: 2003-07-10 01:22pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
If you accept the video games, you can get frequent medals in TF and XWvTF.
Re: Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-10 08:23pm
by YT300000
Dorsk 81 wrote:Emperor Palpatine wrote:Just two questions:
2) Were officers awarded with medals in the Imperial Navy? So far, we do not see any evidence of medals or other things awarded for their good work. Any sources (other than the movies') showing such awards existing? Or were the only awards simply promotions?
E.D.C.P
Yep, I'm not entierly sure what game it is, one of the x-wing vs tie fighter games I think you got awarded medals, I even got one from Palpatine himself!
Tie Fighter. And you got to be in the Inner Circle of the Secret Order of the Emperor too!
Re: Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-11 01:46am
by Dorsk 81
YT300000 wrote:Dorsk 81 wrote:Emperor Palpatine wrote:Just two questions:
2) Were officers awarded with medals in the Imperial Navy? So far, we do not see any evidence of medals or other things awarded for their good work. Any sources (other than the movies') showing such awards existing? Or were the only awards simply promotions?
E.D.C.P
Yep, I'm not entierly sure what game it is, one of the x-wing vs tie fighter games I think you got awarded medals, I even got one from Palpatine himself!
Tie Fighter. And you got to be in the Inner Circle of the Secret Order of the Emperor too!
Well look at me, don't I just feel special.
It's been atleast a year since I've played it though.
Posted: 2003-07-11 08:03am
by Emperor Palpatine
Ah, I've just watched ESB and finally (!) caught Vader saying "Move our ships beyond the energy field, and deploy the fleet" or something like that... I always (almost) find answers to my questions shortly after I have asked. Sometimes I'm just too hasty and eager to ask questions.
Hmm... the movies never show any medals on anyone, and the uniform didn't seem to be fit to 'attach' medals...
EDCP
Re: Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-11 08:20am
by Vympel
Well look at me, don't I just feel special.
It's been atleast a year since I've played it though.
The Emperor doesn't award you with a medal, but if you do all the Secret Missions, you can advance up the Secret Order- ending up as Emperor's Voice.
From the sounds of it, I don't think you got that far.
Re: Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-11 08:49am
by Dorsk 81
Vympel wrote:
Well look at me, don't I just feel special.
It's been atleast a year since I've played it though.
The Emperor doesn't award you with a medal, but if you do all the Secret Missions, you can advance up the Secret Order- ending up as Emperor's Voice.
From the sounds of it, I don't think you got that far.
Well, there was some great big ceremony and the Emporer gave me something, looked like a medal
Re: Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-11 08:59am
by Vympel
Dorsk 81 wrote:
Well, there was some great big ceremony and the Emporer gave me something, looked like a medal
The Emperor does not debase himself by actually walking up to you and giving you a medal- his lackey gives you a medal though- while he watches from several 100m up.
Re: Some questions...
Posted: 2003-07-11 09:34am
by Dorsk 81
Vympel wrote:Dorsk 81 wrote:
Well, there was some great big ceremony and the Emporer gave me something, looked like a medal
The Emperor does not debase himself by actually walking up to you and giving you a medal- his lackey gives you a medal though- while he watches from several 100m up.
Ok, from what I remember he was sitting on some throne type thing and he spoke and he had a medal type thing in his hand.
Posted: 2003-07-11 01:34pm
by Darth Yoshi
You're referring to the Emperor's Will Medal, obtained by stopping Zaarin's coup attempt. That's a one time deal, I think.
I'm Emperor's Eyes in the Secret Order.
Posted: 2003-07-11 01:39pm
by Dorsk 81
Darth Yoshi wrote:You're referring to the Emperor's Will Medal, obtained by stopping Zaarin's coup attempt. That's a one time deal, I think.
I'm Emperor's Eyes in the Secret Order.
That'll be it, the name Zaarin sounds very familiar.
Posted: 2003-07-11 06:23pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Emperor Palpatine wrote:Hmm... the movies never show any medals on anyone, and the uniform didn't seem to be fit to 'attach' medals...
The Imperial Navy probably doesn't bother with requiring its soldiers to wear the gaudy medals they are awarded, except for maybe special cerimonial instances.
Posted: 2003-07-11 06:35pm
by DPDarkPrimus
That's something I always found cool about the Imperial officers. Their uniforms aren't covered in gaudy rank badges and medals. Their rank badges are simplistic and oh-so-cool.
Posted: 2003-07-11 06:36pm
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
Dorsk 81 wrote:Darth Yoshi wrote:You're referring to the Emperor's Will Medal, obtained by stopping Zaarin's coup attempt. That's a one time deal, I think.
I'm Emperor's Eyes in the Secret Order.
That'll be it, the name Zaarin sounds very familiar.
The Zaarin coup is mentioned in the New EGtC. COOLNESS!
I used to have both those games (Tie FIghter and X-Wing), but they disappeared soemwhere (i have the boxes, manuals, and everything else, but no games DAMNIT!!!). I've been looking to buy them again, but don't want to pay $25.00 each for the games (official Lucasarts price). Anyone know of a place to get them (legal or otherwise)?
Posted: 2003-07-11 07:32pm
by YT300000
Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote:Dorsk 81 wrote:Darth Yoshi wrote:You're referring to the Emperor's Will Medal, obtained by stopping Zaarin's coup attempt. That's a one time deal, I think.
I'm Emperor's Eyes in the Secret Order.
That'll be it, the name Zaarin sounds very familiar.
The Zaarin coup is mentioned in the New EGtC. COOLNESS!
I used to have both those games (Tie FIghter and X-Wing), but they disappeared soemwhere (i have the boxes, manuals, and everything else, but no games DAMNIT!!!). I've been looking to buy them again, but don't want to pay $25.00 each for the games (official Lucasarts price). Anyone know of a place to get them (legal or otherwise)?
Any computer store:
Future Shop: X-Wing Trilogy (they have about 2 left) $15. Thats XW, TF and XWA.
Posted: 2003-07-11 07:37pm
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
YT300000 wrote:Mitth-raw-nuruodo wrote:Dorsk 81 wrote:
That'll be it, the name Zaarin sounds very familiar.
The Zaarin coup is mentioned in the New EGtC. COOLNESS!
I used to have both those games (Tie FIghter and X-Wing), but they disappeared soemwhere (i have the boxes, manuals, and everything else, but no games DAMNIT!!!). I've been looking to buy them again, but don't want to pay $25.00 each for the games (official Lucasarts price). Anyone know of a place to get them (legal or otherwise)?
Any computer store:
Future Shop: X-Wing Trilogy (they have about 2 left) $15. Thats XW, TF and XWA.
!!!!!!!!!!! *finds local Future Shop*
EDIT: Canada!?!?!? Argh... if I lived somewhere a little more northern than FLORIDA i might consider it... Online order it is then!
Posted: 2003-07-14 08:05am
by Emperor Palpatine
That's something I always found cool about the Imperial officers. Their uniforms aren't covered in gaudy rank badges and medals. Their rank badges are simplistic and oh-so-cool.
Yeah, I like this fact too. The uniforms and such that I've seen on Earth seem quite messy, with those rank insignias and badges placed in a place that would have to make a person look closer to identify the rank.
SW's rank insignias are staring right in a person's face, and is so simple to guess what rank they are. And clean, too.
Oh, speaking of Zaarin, he appears to be in X-Wing Alliance. His insignia is one of an Admiral, but instead of just one cylinder, he had two, one on either side. And the 'Lieutenant' in the scene where Admiral Holtz's ship failed to jump into hyperspace had a 5-columned, full red insignia, also with one cylinder on either side.
Can these insignias actually fit into the system? If not... which ranks do the insignias really represent?
Call me crazy, but I'm quite interested in all this rank and insignia business. *waits for smirks and snide remarks*
EDCP
Posted: 2003-07-14 04:18pm
by YT300000
Emperor Palpatine wrote:That's something I always found cool about the Imperial officers. Their uniforms aren't covered in gaudy rank badges and medals. Their rank badges are simplistic and oh-so-cool.
Yeah, I like this fact too. The uniforms and such that I've seen on Earth seem quite messy, with those rank insignias and badges placed in a place that would have to make a person look closer to identify the rank.
SW's rank insignias are staring right in a person's face, and is so simple to guess what rank they are. And clean, too.
Oh, speaking of Zaarin, he appears to be in X-Wing Alliance. His insignia is one of an Admiral, but instead of just one cylinder, he had two, one on either side. And the 'Lieutenant' in the scene where Admiral Holtz's ship failed to jump into hyperspace had a 5-columned, full red insignia, also with one cylinder on either side.
Can these insignias actually fit into the system? If not... which ranks do the insignias really represent?
Call me crazy, but I'm quite interested in all this rank and insignia business. *waits for smirks and snide remarks*
EDCP
According to Saxton, there are 3 different styles of insignias.