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Coruscant population

Posted: 2003-08-16 05:38am
by Dark Primus
I have heard several numbers for the enormus population on the capital world of Coruscant raging from one trillion to 100 trillion. Anyone who has read a more accurate figure somewhere?

Posted: 2003-08-16 08:45am
by Ender
1 trillion is the official number, Saxton points out that it should be the 100 trillion range minimum on his site.


Personally, I see no problem with the 1 trillion number. I just assume that, like how it is correctly the european spelling of "lightsabre", that they are using the european version of 1 trillion: 10^18 instead of 10^12

Posted: 2003-08-16 09:17am
by Lord Pounder
In the X-Wing books Stackpole makes a good stab at it. He surmises that the number of systems in the Empire/Republic at the time would need say 10 to 20 people in it's Senatorial Staff to represent it properly. But then those 10 to 20 people need a population to sell them shit and to feed them etc. 100 billion would be a bare minimum IMHO. Also don't forget that many of the top schools and accademies existed on Coruscant.

Re: Coruscant population

Posted: 2003-08-16 09:32am
by The Duchess of Zeon
Dark Primus wrote:I have heard several numbers for the enormus population on the capital world of Coruscant raging from one trillion to 100 trillion. Anyone who has read a more accurate figure somewhere?
One time it was stated to be 600 billion--since the spellings are English, there is no reason why the number system shouldn't be, either. A British Billion is our trillion, and that fits rather nicely.

Posted: 2003-08-16 10:13am
by Chris OFarrell
In some of the books set shortly after the fall of Courscant, they mention that the best number the GE and NR worked with was one Trillion. Though they didn't have an exact count, they thought that this was reletivly acurate. I was always under the impression that it was the UK Trillion. I.E. 10^18 people I belive. Of course here in Auz we use the UK measurements so I might be a bit biased.

Posted: 2003-08-16 10:17am
by Tribun
Chris OFarrell wrote:In some of the books set shortly after the fall of Courscant, they mention that the best number the GE and NR worked with was one Trillion. Though they didn't have an exact count, they thought that this was reletivly acurate. I was always under the impression that it was the UK Trillion. I.E. 10^18 people I belive. Of course here in Auz we use the UK measurements so I might be a bit biased.
In Germany, a trillion is also 10^18. The only country, where the system is fucked up in the US, where a trillion is 10^12. So the one trillion count for Coruscant is realistic, if you are not a American....

Posted: 2003-08-16 04:38pm
by StimNeuro
Tribun wrote:
Chris OFarrell wrote:In some of the books set shortly after the fall of Courscant, they mention that the best number the GE and NR worked with was one Trillion. Though they didn't have an exact count, they thought that this was reletivly acurate. I was always under the impression that it was the UK Trillion. I.E. 10^18 people I belive. Of course here in Auz we use the UK measurements so I might be a bit biased.
In Germany, a trillion is also 10^18. The only country, where the system is fucked up in the US, where a trillion is 10^12. So the one trillion count for Coruscant is realistic, if you are not a American....
So what is 10^12 everywhere else? One thousand billion?

Posted: 2003-08-16 05:13pm
by Durandal
Tribun wrote:
Chris OFarrell wrote:In some of the books set shortly after the fall of Courscant, they mention that the best number the GE and NR worked with was one Trillion. Though they didn't have an exact count, they thought that this was reletivly acurate. I was always under the impression that it was the UK Trillion. I.E. 10^18 people I belive. Of course here in Auz we use the UK measurements so I might be a bit biased.
In Germany, a trillion is also 10^18. The only country, where the system is fucked up in the US, where a trillion is 10^12. So the one trillion count for Coruscant is realistic, if you are not a American....
In America, 10^6 is a million, 10^9 is a billion, 10^12 is a trillion, and 10^15 is a quadrillion. Does it go 10^6 is a million, 10^12 is a billion, 10^18 is a trillion in Europe?

Posted: 2003-08-16 05:19pm
by YT300000
Well, in France it's:

1000: mille
1 000 000: million
1 000 000 000: milliard
1 000 000 000 000: billion

Posted: 2003-08-16 05:23pm
by Tribun
Germany:

10^6=1.000.000=Million
10^9=1.000.000.000=Milliard
10^12=1.000.000.000.000=Billion
10^15=1.000.000.000.000.000=Billiard
10^18=1.000.000.000.000.000.000=Trillion

Posted: 2003-08-16 06:24pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
The TPM Inside the Worlds book lists the population of Coruscant as one trillion US.

Posted: 2003-08-16 11:31pm
by Mad
Lord Pounder wrote:In the X-Wing books Stackpole makes a good stab at it.
In a way, yeah:
The Krytos Trap, p323-4 wrote:With the prow stabbing up into the sky, the Lusankya's thrusters ignited. Searing blue plasma vaporized huge chunks of cityscape beneath the ship's aft end. The Destroyer began to move foreward and upward out of the column of smoke that marked its birth. A ship that boasts a crew of over a quarter of a million individuals must have killed ten times that many lifting off.


250,000 * 10 = 2,500,000 people

The Krytos Trap, p333 wrote:Cracken held a comlink up by his ear. "The ship appears to have been buried beneath a portion of the cityscape southwest of the Manarai Mountains. It came up firing. Freeing itself it devastated over a hundred square kilometers. Millions are missing, presumed dead.


2,500,000 people / 100 km^2 = 25,000 people per square kilometer. At 460,000,000 km^2 for Earth (Coruscant is larger), gives us 11.5 trillion (US), minimum.

Yeah, the 100 km^2 is a bit low, but it shouldn't be much higher. And we should easily have more than the 2,500,000 people estimate and we know Coruscant is larger. So it's a good rough minimum estimate.

Posted: 2003-08-17 12:36am
by Illuminatus Primus
Ender wrote:Personally, I see no problem with the 1 trillion number. I just assume that, like how it is correctly the european spelling of "lightsabre", that they are using the european version of 1 trillion: 10^18 instead of 10^12
Going from a multi-hundred trillion lower limit to four orders of magnitude greater is a bit of a stretch.

I tend to think of it as just those inhabitants with a certain form or elitest type of citizenship or just the guys the census gets to.

Posted: 2003-08-17 12:39am
by Alyeska
Just a couple things to think about. The planet is not uniformly populated and some areas are outright desolate. There is a small north pole with ice cap. Also AOTC put several industrial areas that are devoid of the city like structures elsewhere. So while the planet could hold more, a 1 trillion (US) figure for the planets population isn't all that unrealistic nor low.

Posted: 2003-08-17 12:44am
by RogueIce
When I've read the novels (excepting, according to Mr Brown, the OT novels anyway, and possibly the Prequel ones too) they spell it as "saber" and "defense" and other US spellings.

So why wouldn't their trillion by the US trillion?

Posted: 2003-08-17 12:46am
by Illuminatus Primus
:lol:

Yeah, because its less heavily populated than a modern suburb wrapped around Earth.

Posted: 2003-08-17 12:54am
by RogueIce
Illuminatus Primus wrote::lol:

Yeah, because its less heavily populated than a modern suburb wrapped around Earth.
I'm not saying it's right, just saying that's what the books were referring to (since some people have said the books were referring to the UK trillion).

Posted: 2003-08-17 01:01am
by Illuminatus Primus
RogueIce wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote::lol:

Yeah, because its less heavily populated than a modern suburb wrapped around Earth.
I'm not saying it's right, just saying that's what the books were referring to (since some people have said the books were referring to the UK trillion).
My response was to Alyeska, sorry.

Posted: 2003-08-17 01:04am
by RogueIce
Illuminatus Primus wrote:My response was to Alyeska, sorry.
No problem. Just let this be a lesson on what happens when you don't quote text. :wink: