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Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-25 12:32pm
by Enola Straight
With Hyperdrive, just about anyplace in the galaxy is reachable within a few days, if not hours.
Has the Old Republic, Empire, or New Republic authorized any kind of "sleeper ship" to scope out neighboring galaxies?
In some fanfics I believe there is mention of an "Outward Bound Flight", though I don't know how canon this is.
Posted: 2003-08-25 12:34pm
by Ghost Rider
Given that AoTC showed us two other galaxies...I would venture the OR did explore other galaxies.
Also the Outbound Project is something Zahn came up in HttE.
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-25 03:50pm
by Crazedwraith
Enola Straight wrote:
In some fanfics I believe there is mention of an "Outward Bound Flight", though I don't know how canon this is.
Outward bound flight project was invented by Zahn, It was a bunch of Jedi masters who were going to go explore other galaxies. Palpatine didn't like this so he send some ships to blow the Jedi up. Paply's ships were ambushed by Thrawn, who inturn was convince the outward bound project had to be stopped so when the jedi arrived he blew them up as well.
The chiss government didn't like the fact thrawn attacked first and exciled him. Late a Star Destroyer found him and took him the the now-emperor Palpatine, who gave him a military comission.
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-25 05:10pm
by Natorgator
I read one time that the Emperor planned to build a 256km long Imperium class ultra Star Destroyer that would travel to other galaxies to expand the empire, but it was never built.
The embodiment of Palpatine's plans for extra-galactic conquest, the Imperium would have been as powerful as a Death Star, but much more mobile. Equipped with a small fleet of capital ships, thousands of fighters, and innumerable support craft, the Imperium would have had virtually unlimited range since it would also have carried several World Devastators to produce needed supplies. With this ship, the immortal Palpatine would have spread the Empire across the universe. Rumors suggest that the crew would also have been "immortal" as well, thanks to cloning equipment that would have been onboard. Thankfully, Palpatine was not as immortal as he had hoped, and the ship never progressed beyond initial planning before his final death. While some die-hard Imperials wanted to try and actually build it to use against the New Republic, saner heads prevailed and the Imperium remained only a terrible dream.
Link is found
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Posted: 2003-08-25 05:28pm
by The Dark
The leader of the Outward Bound Flight was the original Jorus C'Baoth, a Jedi Master (who, according to Star Wars Gamer, never trained any padawans).
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-25 05:56pm
by StarshipTitanic
Natorgator wrote:I read one time that the Emperor planned to build a 256km long Imperium class ultra Star Destroyer that would travel to other galaxies to expand the empire, but it was never built.
That's all made up.
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-25 07:56pm
by YT300000
Natorgator wrote:I read one time that the Emperor planned to build a 256km long Imperium class ultra Star Destroyer that would travel to other galaxies to expand the empire, but it was never built.
The embodiment of Palpatine's plans for extra-galactic conquest, the Imperium would have been as powerful as a Death Star, but much more mobile. Equipped with a small fleet of capital ships, thousands of fighters, and innumerable support craft, the Imperium would have had virtually unlimited range since it would also have carried several World Devastators to produce needed supplies. With this ship, the immortal Palpatine would have spread the Empire across the universe. Rumors suggest that the crew would also have been "immortal" as well, thanks to cloning equipment that would have been onboard. Thankfully, Palpatine was not as immortal as he had hoped, and the ship never progressed beyond initial planning before his final death. While some die-hard Imperials wanted to try and actually build it to use against the New Republic, saner heads prevailed and the Imperium remained only a terrible dream.
Link is found
here
Nice pic. It also points to the (non-canonical) existence of Sceptre, Eradicator, Malevolent and Inquisitor class ships.
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-25 09:27pm
by Stormbringer
YT300000 wrote:Natorgator wrote:I read one time that the Emperor planned to build a 256km long Imperium class ultra Star Destroyer that would travel to other galaxies to expand the empire, but it was never built.
The embodiment of Palpatine's plans for extra-galactic conquest, the Imperium would have been as powerful as a Death Star, but much more mobile. Equipped with a small fleet of capital ships, thousands of fighters, and innumerable support craft, the Imperium would have had virtually unlimited range since it would also have carried several World Devastators to produce needed supplies. With this ship, the immortal Palpatine would have spread the Empire across the universe. Rumors suggest that the crew would also have been "immortal" as well, thanks to cloning equipment that would have been onboard. Thankfully, Palpatine was not as immortal as he had hoped, and the ship never progressed beyond initial planning before his final death. While some die-hard Imperials wanted to try and actually build it to use against the New Republic, saner heads prevailed and the Imperium remained only a terrible dream.
Link is found
here
Nice pic. It also points to the (non-canonical) existence of Sceptre, Eradicator, Malevolent and Inquisitor class ships.
Those are all nothing more than fan designs. They've got no standing at all.
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-25 09:34pm
by YT300000
Stormbringer wrote:Those are all nothing more than fan designs. They've got no standing at all.
I know. Note my use of the word: non-canonical.
Posted: 2003-08-25 09:38pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
"Non-canonical" would still imply that they might be official.
Those are not even apocrypha. They are fan creations, and therefore called fan creations.
Posted: 2003-08-25 09:43pm
by RogueIce
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:"Non-canonical" would still imply that they might be official.
Those are not even apocrypha. They are fan creations, and therefore called fan creations.
Yeah...but it looks cool!
Imagine how the Vs debate would go if that monster had real status, and was actually built?
Posted: 2003-08-25 09:47pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Actually, I think it's just too damn big. Absurdly so, actually.
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-25 09:51pm
by Stormbringer
YT300000 wrote:Stormbringer wrote:Those are all nothing more than fan designs. They've got no standing at all.
I know. Note my use of the word: non-canonical.
Non-canon is not the same as no standing at all. Fanfic and the EU are equally non-canon; the former doesn't matter at all while the latter does.
Posted: 2003-08-25 10:03pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Actually, the EU is canonical (in a literary sense) in so far that it does not contradict the intent of films, screenplays, comic depictions, novelisations, and (recently) the Incredible Cross-Sections.
Posted: 2003-08-25 10:13pm
by Ender
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Actually, the EU is canonical (in a literary sense) in so far that it does not contradict the intent of films, screenplays, comic depictions, novelisations, and (recently) the Incredible Cross-Sections.
And since the older ICSs are used as EU references, and one of the big reasons Saxton was picked was because of his policy of "examine and try to incorporate every bit of the EU", the latter is none to likely.
The amount of forethought he put into that things is amazing really.
Posted: 2003-08-25 10:16pm
by Illuminatus Primus
I always enjoy his ability to mend fixes through the existing continuity, to adjust for more movie-scale universe. His interview on TF.net was a treat.
Posted: 2003-08-25 11:29pm
by Stormbringer
Illuminatus Primus wrote:I always enjoy his ability to mend fixes through the existing continuity, to adjust for more movie-scale universe. His interview on TF.net was a treat.
Yeah. The man has a lot of passion about it and it's great to see him recognised for it. I'm just glad to have helped with some contributions to his site.
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-26 09:08am
by Peregrin Toker
Stormbringer wrote:Those are all nothing more than fan designs. They've got no standing at all.
Actually, the Spectre looks a hell lot like Admiral Giel's flagship, and the Malevolent-class and Inquisitor-class battleships are scrapped concepts for the Executor.
Posted: 2003-08-26 02:19pm
by YT300000
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:"Non-canonical" would still imply that they might be official.
Those are not even apocrypha. They are fan creations, and therefore called fan creations.
I use the word canon in the literal sense: there is no apocrypha, just canon and non-canon. The books are canon, but not so much as the movies.
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-26 04:07pm
by Striderteen
YT300000 wrote:Natorgator wrote:I read one time that the Emperor planned to build a 256km long Imperium class ultra Star Destroyer that would travel to other galaxies to expand the empire, but it was never built.
The embodiment of Palpatine's plans for extra-galactic conquest, the Imperium would have been as powerful as a Death Star, but much more mobile. Equipped with a small fleet of capital ships, thousands of fighters, and innumerable support craft, the Imperium would have had virtually unlimited range since it would also have carried several World Devastators to produce needed supplies. With this ship, the immortal Palpatine would have spread the Empire across the universe. Rumors suggest that the crew would also have been "immortal" as well, thanks to cloning equipment that would have been onboard. Thankfully, Palpatine was not as immortal as he had hoped, and the ship never progressed beyond initial planning before his final death. While some die-hard Imperials wanted to try and actually build it to use against the New Republic, saner heads prevailed and the Imperium remained only a terrible dream.
Link is found
here
Nice pic. It also points to the (non-canonical) existence of Sceptre, Eradicator, Malevolent and Inquisitor class ships.
Those seem to simply be made-up names for the unidentified Imperial capships from the Star Wars Technical Commentaries.
Posted: 2003-08-26 05:07pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
YT300000 wrote:Spanky The Dolphin wrote:"Non-canonical" would still imply that they might be official.
Those are not even apocrypha. They are fan creations, and therefore called fan creations.
I use the word canon in the literal sense: there is no apocrypha, just canon and non-canon. The books are canon, but not so much as the movies.
Don't be such a brick, YT.
For simplicity's sake, we group them in three categories: Canon, Official, and Apocrypha.
Canon is absolute. Official is canon but outranked by Canon itself in terms of hierarchy. Apocrypha is excluded and noncanon at all levels.
Posted: 2003-08-27 03:53pm
by YT300000
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Don't be such a brick, YT.
For simplicity's sake, we group them in three categories: Canon, Official, and Apocrypha.
Canon is absolute. Official is canon but outranked by Canon itself in terms of hierarchy. Apocrypha is excluded and noncanon at all levels.
[exasperated]Fine.[/exasperated]
But I still prefer it the literal way.
Re: Extragalactic Exploration
Posted: 2003-08-28 09:56am
by Peregrin Toker
Striderteen wrote:Those seem to simply be made-up names for the unidentified Imperial capships from the Star Wars Technical Commentaries.
Indeed - as I pointed out, two of them are scrapped concept for the Executor and the Spectre-class looks slightly like Admiral Giel's flagship.
(although it's way smaller and sleeker than Giel's ship)
As for the Imperium-class - I kinda like the appearance, but
260 kilometres?? For some reason I think it's OK for Death Stars to be that big but not for a star destroyer.