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How big is the Starwars Galaxy?

Posted: 2003-08-28 08:18am
by Xon
I know the milkyway is ~100k lightyears across, but our galaxy is a typical large galaxy, up to 10 times greater diameter than its galactic nieghbours.

So the question is, how big is the Starwars Galaxy?

Posted: 2003-08-28 08:35am
by Vympel
120,000 LY, according to several EU sources.

Posted: 2003-08-28 08:54am
by Emperor Palpatine
Speaking of size, how big is the Andromeda (our closest neighbouring galaxy.)?

Oh, anyone aware of any commentaries, editorials, etc, that state the time it takes to get from one side (the longest way, since the galaxy isn't really evenly shaped.) to the other of the galaxy(SW)?

Posted: 2003-08-28 10:53am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Andromeda is 120K LY, IIRC.

But it's not the closest galaxy to the Milky Way: that would technically be the Sagittarius Dwarf (oh, and there are the Magellanic Clouds, too):
http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/galaxy.html

Also, SW lightyears are 0.75% longer than our lightyears, so the Galaxy is slightly bigger than Andromeda.

Posted: 2003-08-30 01:33am
by Xenophobe3691
120,000 LY, according to Lando in that book w/the Quella ship

Posted: 2003-08-30 03:09am
by Sea Skimmer
Emperor Palpatine wrote:Speaking of size, how big is the Andromeda (our closest neighbouring galaxy.)?

Oh, anyone aware of any commentaries, editorials, etc, that state the time it takes to get from one side (the longest way, since the galaxy isn't really evenly shaped.) to the other of the galaxy(SW)?
Well the transit time from Tatooine to Alderaan, basically the rim to the deep core is just seven hours according to the Behind the Magic CD as I recall. So crossing the whole galaxy in under one day seems fair. The apparently ultra high speed of travel in TPM and AOTC support this. Though travel times don't always match with distance because of differences in hyperspace lanes.

Posted: 2003-08-30 09:40am
by RogueIce
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Also, SW lightyears are 0.75% longer than our lightyears, so the Galaxy is slightly bigger than Andromeda.
How's that? I never heard of this before. :?

Posted: 2003-08-30 10:01am
by PeZook
RogueIce wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Also, SW lightyears are 0.75% longer than our lightyears, so the Galaxy is slightly bigger than Andromeda.
How's that? I never heard of this before. :?
As far as I know, it's derived from the fact that Coruscant's years is longer than ours, and since a light-year is simply distance light can travel within a standard year...

See SWTC for details

Posted: 2003-08-30 02:15pm
by Kuja
Vympel wrote:120,000 LY, according to several EU sources.
Does this figure include or exclude the two tail galaxies seen in the AOTC map Obiwan was using to find Kamino?

Posted: 2003-08-30 02:23pm
by Duckie
Most likely it excludes them, since those books, IIRC, were written before Episode II.

Posted: 2003-08-30 09:43pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Kuja wrote:
Vympel wrote:120,000 LY, according to several EU sources.
Does this figure include or exclude the two tail galaxies seen in the AOTC map Obiwan was using to find Kamino?
You can't come up with a decent figure for the radius of something that is multiple disks, can you?

Posted: 2003-08-30 09:54pm
by Ender
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Kuja wrote:
Vympel wrote:120,000 LY, according to several EU sources.
Does this figure include or exclude the two tail galaxies seen in the AOTC map Obiwan was using to find Kamino?
You can't come up with a decent figure for the radius of something that is multiple disks, can you?
Given that it is 3d, you might. think of it like a cone with the point cut off midway through, and go from the middle of the height.

But since we don't know if those are dwarf galaxies in orbit or just far off galaxies they have mapped as well, it's moot

Posted: 2003-08-30 09:58pm
by Illuminatus Primus
We do know, however, that at least one dwarf galaxy, the Rishi Maze, is tied to the GFFA.

Posted: 2003-08-30 11:44pm
by Kuja
Illuminatus Primus wrote:We do know, however, that at least one dwarf galaxy, the Rishi Maze, is tied to the GFFA.

The other might be the Unknown Regions...

Posted: 2003-08-30 11:50pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Illuminatus Primus wrote:We do know, however, that at least one dwarf galaxy, the Rishi Maze, is tied to the GFFA.
It seems unlikely they have ever explored it though, given recent discoveries in the NJO, it is more likely the citizens of the GFFA have merely observed their two neighboring galaxies, but have not explored them.

Plus, a fun bit of trivia: Rishi is actually a planet mentioned in a throw-away line from the Thrawn Trilogy. There is, however, no relation.

Posted: 2003-08-31 07:02am
by Executor
Are the any decent maps of the galaxy (the NJO one seems wrong since the unknown regions cover a little less then half the galaxy) that we could determine how much of the galaxy is each region i.e the core, outer rim etc

Posted: 2003-08-31 10:43am
by Illuminatus Primus
Kuja wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:We do know, however, that at least one dwarf galaxy, the Rishi Maze, is tied to the GFFA.

The other might be the Unknown Regions...
The Unknown Regions is NOT a defined region. According to Galaxy Guide, its just a general label for systems and territory ignored or unused.

Posted: 2003-08-31 12:04pm
by Peregrin Toker
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Plus, a fun bit of trivia: Rishi is actually a planet mentioned in a throw-away line from the Thrawn Trilogy. There is, however, no relation.
Given the size of the galaxy, it could be that there are two planets called Rishi.

Posted: 2003-08-31 12:25pm
by Emperor Palpatine
Well the transit time from Tatooine to Alderaan, basically the rim to the deep core is just seven hours according to the Behind the Magic CD as I recall. So crossing the whole galaxy in under one day seems fair. The apparently ultra high speed of travel in TPM and AOTC support this. Though travel times don't always match with distance because of differences in hyperspace lanes.
If only Voyager had the hyperdrive...

I remember reading somewhere that a site used the time of day on a planet and another planet to measure the speed of drives. Isn't that a little ridiculous, since day on Planet A can't possibly be day in Planet B... anyone came across it? I can't find it anywhere.

Posted: 2003-08-31 12:29pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Plus, a fun bit of trivia: Rishi is actually a planet mentioned in a throw-away line from the Thrawn Trilogy. There is, however, no relation.
Given the size of the galaxy, it could be that there are two planets called Rishi.
Nope.

Rishi the planet is located in the satellite dwarf galaxy Rishi Maze.

Posted: 2003-08-31 12:57pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Nope.

Rishi the planet is located in the satellite dwarf galaxy Rishi Maze.
EU sources put it inside the GFFA. The map of the galaxy (from SWI) has it in the very bottom of the Outer Rim; it has also been explored by the Republic before. That would be impossible if it were in the Rishi Maze.

Posted: 2003-09-02 02:20am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Emperor Palpatine wrote:
Well the transit time from Tatooine to Alderaan, basically the rim to the deep core is just seven hours according to the Behind the Magic CD as I recall. So crossing the whole galaxy in under one day seems fair. The apparently ultra high speed of travel in TPM and AOTC support this. Though travel times don't always match with distance because of differences in hyperspace lanes.
If only Voyager had the hyperdrive...

I remember reading somewhere that a site used the time of day on a planet and another planet to measure the speed of drives. Isn't that a little ridiculous, since day on Planet A can't possibly be day in Planet B... anyone came across it? I can't find it anywhere.
That would be DarkStar's "analysis" of scenes taking place on Tatooine and Couruscant in at a late point in AOTC. His conclusion is false, of course.

For one, he assumes that a SW parsec is the same as ours (~3 LY) when it is actually 4.99 of their lightyears...

Posted: 2003-09-03 11:21pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Nope.

Rishi the planet is located in the satellite dwarf galaxy Rishi Maze.
EU sources put it inside the GFFA. The map of the galaxy (from SWI) has it in the very bottom of the Outer Rim; it has also been explored by the Republic before. That would be impossible if it were in the Rishi Maze.
I know, but the RPG maps have shown Kamino "just south" of Rishi the planet, and given the highly unlikely galactic region being the unknown regions and most of these maps being out-of-scale "road" maps, I don't see it as unlikely.

Look at the Sith War comics. Dantooine is actually outside the galactic disk. I don't think GL took the Rishi name co-incidentally, and there's also the Intergalactic Banking Clan.

And I'd like you to support that assumption that there's some law forbidding the idea that the Republic explored outside of the galactic disk anywhere.

Who was Rishi?

Posted: 2003-09-04 06:39am
by omegaLancer
could it be that both the planet and the maze was named after an individual called Rishi and that the planet is in the main galaxy while the maze lay outside the galaxy proper..

From the movie it appear that the Maze is actually beyond the rim so there is travel beyond the galaxy proper.

Posted: 2003-09-04 07:52am
by Ender
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Look at the Sith War comics. Dantooine is actually outside the galactic disk.
We have numerous sources saying Dantooine is in the OR, and one KJA source where it is arguable that he is looking at the galaxy metaphorically and we are seeing into his thoughts, adn you see the latter as a more reasonable source?
I don't think GL took the Rishi name co-incidentally, and there's also the Intergalactic Banking Clan.
I belong to the National bank of Hegwish. It has one branch, in that town. Names don't always mean something. There is more then one way to interperate the name there.