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Leia's Imperial Interrogation?
Posted: 2003-09-08 01:43pm
by Enola Straight
I assume that Darth Vader, a Sith Lord proficient in the ways of the force...including telepathy... could just look at Leia andknow that the Rebels were at Dantooine.
So why did he and Tarkin need doctors and droids pumping her full of god knows what to make her talk?
Posted: 2003-09-08 01:46pm
by Shinova
She's Force sensitive so Vader wouldn't have been able to probe her?
But then Vader would probably have known she was Force-sensitive. I think he either didn't think of it at the time or the Force doesn't allow for full-blown telepathy.
Posted: 2003-09-08 01:59pm
by Stormbringer
Shinova wrote:But then Vader would probably have known she was Force-sensitive. I think he either didn't think of it at the time or the Force doesn't allow for full-blown telepathy.
He might well have known "the force is strong with this one" with out necessarily known she was Jedi material.
And the fact that she was certainly strong willed probably prevented him from obtaining the infomation. Remember, the mind tricks don't work so well on strong willed individuals. Between her strength of will and most likely quite a bit of training to resist interrogation I doubt he'd be able to casually pry the information out of her.
Posted: 2003-09-08 02:07pm
by Stravo
The line "Her resistance to the mind probe is considerable" could mean his Sith Mind probing using the force. I don't think that the Empire has mind probe devices. Her being force sensitive made it easier for her to resist.
Posted: 2003-09-08 03:09pm
by Sea Skimmer
Stravo wrote:The line "Her resistance to the mind probe is considerable" could mean his Sith Mind probing using the force. I don't think that the Empire has mind probe devices. Her being force sensitive made it easier for her to resist.
Actually they can scan people's brains and create complete copies of there memories to make clones. This is likely another application of that technology.
Posted: 2003-09-08 05:01pm
by Illuminatus Primus
I believe the novelisation did imply Force probing.
Posted: 2003-09-08 05:11pm
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
Illuminatus Primus wrote:I believe the novelisation did imply Force probing.
As does the radio drama, IIRC.
*wanders over to find the radio drama script-book thing*
Posted: 2003-09-08 09:58pm
by The Cleric
Stormbringer has the right answer. There is evidence throughout the EU that points to force sensitive/strong willed/trained minds being resistent to Jedi mind tricks.
Posted: 2003-09-08 10:40pm
by Jadeite
Ha, you have to wonder how much hentai there is of that scene with the droid.
Not that I've looked for such stuff. Honestly.
Posted: 2003-09-09 04:39am
by FTeik
I think the novel or the radio-drama also speaks about Leia being trained to resist interrogation.
Posted: 2003-09-10 10:37am
by Robert Walper
Actually, ANH and ROYJ seems to prove conclusively that any type of mind reading, even by a powerful Sith lord, only works upon those who also actively use the Force.
As we have seen, Vader couldn't read or pry information out Leia's mind with any type of success. She had no Jedi training of any sort, and may not even have been aware of the Force in any manner other than from casual remarks by others(ie: "May the Force be with you", etc). Yet Vader was able to read Luke's mind quite effectively, prying information specific enough that he found out Luke had a sister and cared deeply for her, and even posibly her identity. Unless we are going to assume Luke Skywalker is some weak willed pussy, than the only conclusion I can think of is only active Force users are particularily vulnerable to "mind reading". Unless I'm missing something.
Posted: 2003-09-10 10:43am
by phongn
Luke's emotions were quite strong (his incomplete training did not allow him to supress them effectively) and he was essentially broadcasting his thoughts. It would have been rather trivial for any Force-trained warrior to pick that up.
However, that does not mean that the 'target' must be force-sensitive for this to work. Indeed, the EU presents various events of Force users using telepathy.