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Questions about the Death Star
Posted: 2003-09-11 09:34am
by Lex
-How many troopers did it carry
-how long does the superlaser take to reload
-Could the Death Star possible Destroy Suns too
-could the Sun Hammer be destroyed by a direct DS hit?
thanks in advance!
PS: Was jesus as jedi? j/k lol
Re: Questions about the Death Star
Posted: 2003-09-11 10:34am
by Kuja
Lex wrote:
-how long does the superlaser take to reload
-could the Sun Hammer be destroyed by a direct DS hit?
1. Several hours IIRC.
2. Sun CRUSHER and yes, assuming that it would hold still long enough for the DS to target it.
Posted: 2003-09-11 11:25am
by JodoForce
Can anything slip through the DS's shields if it's small enough and slow enough?
Re: Questions about the Death Star
Posted: 2003-09-11 12:53pm
by HRogge
Lex wrote:-could the Sun Hammer be destroyed by a direct DS hit?
The suncrusher was hit by a blast of the DS prototype and survived...
Posted: 2003-09-11 12:56pm
by Howedar
The very edge of the blast, IIRC.
Re: Questions about the Death Star
Posted: 2003-09-11 01:17pm
by Sharp-kun
Lex wrote:-How many troopers did it carry
-how long does the superlaser take to reload
-Could the Death Star possible Destroy Suns too
-could the Sun Hammer be destroyed by a direct DS hit?
thanks in advance!
- 607,360 troops, 25,984 stormtroopers (from
www.starwars.com).
- A day on the DSI, a few minutes on the DSII.
- I don't see why not, though the effect of the laser on a star is unknown. If it caused a supernova or similar, it wouldn't be good for the station.
-Not sure.
Posted: 2003-09-11 02:17pm
by HRogge
Howedar wrote:The very edge of the blast, IIRC.
Let's say the suncrusher is "resistant" to superlaser blasts... but not immune.
A full hit would be ( most likely ) the end for the suncrusher.
Posted: 2003-09-11 02:54pm
by Sea Skimmer
HRogge wrote:
A full hit would be ( most likely ) the end for the suncrusher.
The prototype was a fraction of the size of the actual Death Star, so it is a fairly safe assumption.
Posted: 2003-09-11 03:00pm
by HRogge
Sea Skimmer wrote:HRogge wrote:
A full hit would be ( most likely ) the end for the suncrusher.
The prototype was a fraction of the size of the actual Death Star, so it is a fairly safe assumption.
Are you sure ? They used the prototype to blow up a moon ( and planned to blow up a planet )... most of the structure was not finished, but the superlaser, the hypermatterreactor and sublight/hyperspace engines were finished.
Posted: 2003-09-11 03:05pm
by SecondStorm
Howedar wrote:The very edge of the blast, IIRC.
Yup.
On a related subject:
I believe Ive read somewhere that the DS shields would be able to withstand 1½ of a full SL-blast.
Am I correct or is it something Ive dreamt/hallucinated while on mushrooms/imagined?
Posted: 2003-09-11 03:26pm
by Sea Skimmer
HRogge wrote:
Are you sure ? They used the prototype to blow up a moon ( and planned to blow up a planet )... most of the structure was not finished, but the superlaser, the hypermatterreactor and sublight/hyperspace engines were finished.
The basic Death Star's beam threw out thousands of times more energy then is necessary to simply break up a planet to the point that it wont reform. Not to mention also overwhelming a planetary shield beforehand.
Re: Questions about the Death Star
Posted: 2003-09-11 03:27pm
by Howedar
Sharp-kun wrote:
- I don't see why not, though the effect of the laser on a star is unknown. If it caused a supernova or similar, it wouldn't be good for the station.
It probably wouldn't be good, but instant supernovae are perhaps the most prominant scifi brainbug known.
SecondStorm wrote:On a related subject:
I believe Ive read somewhere that the DS shields would be able to withstand 1½ of a full SL-blast.
I've never heard that. It is generally assumed that a Death Star would not survive a single DS-level superlaser hit.
HRogge wrote:Sea Skimmer wrote:The prototype was a fraction of the size of the actual Death Star, so it is a fairly safe assumption.
Are you sure ? They used the prototype to blow up a moon ( and planned to blow up a planet )... most of the structure was not finished, but the superlaser, the hypermatterreactor and sublight/hyperspace engines were finished.
A planet could be blown to pieces with orders of magnitude less energy than a DS1 blast.
Posted: 2003-09-11 03:29pm
by Sharp-kun
SecondStorm wrote:Howedar wrote:The very edge of the blast, IIRC.
Yup.
On a related subject:
I believe Ive read somewhere that the DS shields would be able to withstand 1½ of a full SL-blast.
Am I correct or is it something Ive dreamt/hallucinated while on mushrooms/imagined?
I don't think I've read that anywhere.
A planet is far stronger than the DS, and far more massive. Any weapon that can destry a planet with a single blast would kill the DS. Alderans shield were amongst the best, and didn't work, I doubt the DS could take it.
Also, in the Krytos Trap, its said that if the DS was used on Coruscant, the computer centre would be a salvagable piece of
debris, suggesting that even Coruscant couldn't take a blast.
Re: Questions about the Death Star
Posted: 2003-09-11 03:30pm
by Sharp-kun
Howedar wrote:Sharp-kun wrote:
- I don't see why not, though the effect of the laser on a star is unknown. If it caused a supernova or similar, it wouldn't be good for the station.
It probably wouldn't be good, but instant supernovae are perhaps the most prominant scifi brainbug known.
I know, but knowing some writers, its what would most likely happen
Posted: 2003-09-11 03:45pm
by Howedar
Move to PSW?
Posted: 2003-09-11 03:47pm
by SecondStorm
Sharp-kun wrote:SecondStorm wrote:Howedar wrote:The very edge of the blast, IIRC.
Yup.
On a related subject:
I believe Ive read somewhere that the DS shields would be able to withstand 1½ of a full SL-blast.
Am I correct or is it something Ive dreamt/hallucinated while on mushrooms/imagined?
I don't think I've read that anywhere.
A planet is far stronger than the DS, and far more massive. Any weapon that can destry a planet with a single blast would kill the DS. Alderans shield were amongst the best, and didn't work, I doubt the DS could take it.
Also, in the Krytos Trap, its said that if the DS was used on Coruscant, the computer centre would be a salvagable piece of
debris, suggesting that even Coruscant couldn't take a blast.
Ok. Its been years since Ive read the older EU. Loads of crap writers and crap stories. Timothy Zahns trilogy is the only one I remember decently.
Though IF it were possible for the DS to transfer its full power to its shields then it should be able to withstand a blast from a DS with similar power-generation.
But there is no indication(that I remember)that the DS is able to do that..
Posted: 2003-09-11 04:02pm
by HRogge
SecondStorm wrote:Though IF it were possible for the DS to transfer its full power to its shields then it should be able to withstand a blast from a DS with similar power-generation.
But there is no indication(that I remember)that the DS is able to do that..
I think the DS would just melt/vaporize the shield generators by transfering DS-blast level power to them.
Posted: 2003-09-11 04:13pm
by Sharp-kun
SecondStorm wrote:Though IF it were possible for the DS to transfer its full power to its shields then it should be able to withstand a blast from a DS with similar power-generation.
But there is no indication(that I remember)that the DS is able to do that..
Even if it could, as I recall, the superlaser is made up of smaller beams, that are amplified through crystals to get the final massive, overpowered beam. To get the same load of energy into the shield, you would somehow have to amplify it in a similar way, which isn't possible with the DS's design.
Posted: 2003-09-11 04:55pm
by YT300000
Howedar wrote:The very edge of the blast, IIRC.
And it was a low power blast, it only took 15 minutes to charge up.
Re: Questions about the Death Star
Posted: 2003-09-11 05:27pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Lex wrote:
-how long does the superlaser take to reload
Could you possibly mean re
charge?
Posted: 2003-09-11 10:00pm
by Crown
Howedar wrote:Move to PSW?
Indeed.
Posted: 2003-09-11 10:18pm
by Darth Mall
Couldn't a planet get a massively thick chunk of the Sun Crusher armor and use it as a last ditch defense against the DS. I mean real thick and meant to be destroyed, not preserved. After all the tech was "rediscovered" by Qui Zux and used on the wind chime planet (can't remember the name) to rebjuild the cathedral of the winds.
Posted: 2003-09-12 12:47am
by Kuja
Darth Mall wrote:Couldn't a planet get a massively thick chunk of the Sun Crusher armor and use it as a last ditch defense against the DS. I mean real thick and meant to be destroyed, not preserved.
Where the hell would they put it? And how would they get it into position? You're talking about a MASSIVE quantity of armor here.
After all the tech was "rediscovered" by Qui Zux and used on the wind chime planet (can't remember the name) to rebjuild the cathedral of the winds.
Vortex.
Posted: 2003-09-12 08:17am
by Darth Mall
You could use rockets and put it into orbit like a asteroid around the planet outside the shields ao that if it was hit the beam would be sufficientally(sp?) slowed that when it hit the shields that it would dissapate.
Posted: 2003-09-12 08:22am
by Sharp-kun
Darth Mall wrote:You could use rockets and put it into orbit like a asteroid around the planet outside the shields ao that if it was hit the beam would be sufficientally(sp?) slowed that when it hit the shields that it would dissapate.
Then the DS just slightly repositions itself to avoid the barrier.
If its the DSII, it just fires, waits a few minutes, then fires again.
Thats assuming such a thing would even be a problem for the station.