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Layman question here.

Assuming you actually built a Death Star and fired it at a planet. Would the SL actually blow up the planet or would the beam blast right through the planet and keep on going?

This is perhaps the dumbest question I've seen all day: we've seen exactly what happens when the Death Star fires at a planet. The planet blows up.


And this belongs in PSW.

Go watch Star Wars.

I see we have a couple of fucking morons here.

So SW is now an example of real world physics?

I want to know what would happen in the REAL WORLD if you fired a high energy beam like that at a planet.

MrAnderson wrote:I want to know what would happen in the REAL WORLD if you fired a high energy beam like that at a planet.

But if you built an exact copy of the Death Star, you would be making a weapon capable of doing exactly what happened in the film. The result would be the same.

MrAnderson wrote:I see we have a couple of fucking morons here.

I just see the one: You.

Let me put this slowly for you:

If

You

Overcome

The

Gravitational

Binding

Energy

Of

A

Planet

It

Will

Explode.

Ender wrote:

MrAnderson wrote:I see we have a couple of fucking morons here.

I just see the one: You.

Let me put this slowly for you:

If

You

Overcome

The

Gravitational

Binding

Energy

Of

A

Planet

It

Will

Explode.

BUT

ONLY

IF

THE

PLANET

SOMEHOW

HOLDS

ALL

THAT

ENERGY

.

A

PLANET

IS

NOT

A

BATTERY.

Sharp-kun wrote:

MrAnderson wrote:I want to know what would happen in the REAL WORLD if you fired a high energy beam like that at a planet.

But if you built an exact copy of the Death Star, you would be making a weapon capable of doing exactly what happened in the film. The result would be the same.

So you are admitting that the Superlaser of the Deathstar (or something in the Deathstar) does something to cause a planet to explode beyond just putting out the necesary energy.

USE.

PHYSICS.

NOT.

FEELINGS.

MrAnderson wrote:

Sharp-kun wrote:

MrAnderson wrote:I want to know what would happen in the REAL WORLD if you fired a high energy beam like that at a planet.

But if you built an exact copy of the Death Star, you would be making a weapon capable of doing exactly what happened in the film. The result would be the same.

So you are admitting that the Superlaser of the Deathstar (or something in the Deathstar) does something to cause a planet to explode beyond just putting out the necesary energy.

It blows it up. That's all.

MrAnderson wrote:

Sharp-kun wrote:

MrAnderson wrote:I want to know what would happen in the REAL WORLD if you fired a high energy beam like that at a planet.

But if you built an exact copy of the Death Star, you would be making a weapon capable of doing exactly what happened in the film. The result would be the same.

So you are admitting that the Superlaser of the Deathstar (or something in the Deathstar) does something to cause a planet to explode beyond just putting out the necesary energy.

Not at all. I'm merely answering your question.

You asked what a DS superlaser would do to a planet if we were to build one.
If you were to build a DS like in the movies, the planet would explode.

MrAnderson wrote:

Ender wrote:

MrAnderson wrote:I see we have a couple of fucking morons here.

I just see the one: You.

Let me put this slowly for you:

If

You

Overcome

The

Gravitational

Binding

Energy

Of

A

Planet

It

Will

Explode.

BUT

ONLY

IF

THE

PLANET

SOMEHOW

HOLDS

ALL

THAT

ENERGY

.

A

PLANET

IS

NOT

A

BATTERY.

You are truely one dumb son of a bitch. Go look up what gravitational Binding Energy is you waste of cells. Its something that the SL has to overcome, not energy in the planet.

Ender wrote:

MrAnderson wrote:

Ender wrote:I just see the one: You.

Let me put this slowly for you:

If

You

Overcome

The

Gravitational

Binding

Energy

Of

A

Planet

It

Will

Explode.

BUT

ONLY

IF

THE

PLANET

SOMEHOW

HOLDS

ALL

THAT

ENERGY

.

A

PLANET

IS

NOT

A

BATTERY.

You are truely one dumb son of a bitch. Go look up what gravitational Binding Energy is you waste of cells. Its something that the SL has to overcome, not energy in the planet.

Your the one being a fucking moron.

I am asking what is keeping that superlaser from just boring straight through the planet and out the otherside. Instead somehow the planet absorbs all of the energy and explodes from it.

So in reality what would happen?

MrAnderson wrote:

Ender wrote:

MrAnderson wrote:
BUT

ONLY

IF

THE

PLANET

SOMEHOW

HOLDS

ALL

THAT

ENERGY

.

A

PLANET

IS

NOT

A

BATTERY.

You are truely one dumb son of a bitch. Go look up what gravitational Binding Energy is you waste of cells. Its something that the SL has to overcome, not energy in the planet.

Your the one being a fucking moron.

You just claimed that the planet has to hold the energy for the explosion, and I'm the idiot? And the word is "You're".

I am asking what is keeping that superlaser from just boring straight through the planet and out the otherside. Instead somehow the planet absorbs all of the energy and explodes from it.

So in reality what would happen?

So, do you have an inability to read or something? I already answered this, and you responded that a planet is not a battery.

Apply enough energy to overcome the GBE of a planet, it will explode. That is what keeps it from boring through the other side you nitwit.

Those quotes need to be edited. There is no reason why people should have to scroll through all of that junk just to get to the exchange on the bottom.

In order for the beam to punch through the planet and come out the other side, there must be a tunnel through the planet which is transparent to the beam. Unless superdense plasma is transparent to the beam, the material in the beam's path will not be evacuated quickly enough to create this transparent tunnel before the beam has finished pouring more than enough energy into its mass to destroy the planet.

As an aside, the Alderaan effect might have been altered by the presence of a planetary shield which dispersed the beam over the entire facing hemisphere (and then some) before penetration. A regular planet might blow up in a different geometrical pattern.

As far as i understood it the Superlaser heats up the material of the planets core (and the matter inbetween), resulting in a huge expansion of said vaporized material, what blows the planet apart.

Darth Wong wrote:In order for the beam to punch through the planet and come out the other side, there must be a tunnel through the planet which is transparent to the beam. Unless superdense plasma is transparent to the beam, the material in the beam's path will not be evacuated quickly enough to create this transparent tunnel before the beam has finished pouring more than enough energy into its mass to destroy the planet.

As an aside, the Alderaan effect might have been altered by the presence of a planetary shield which dispersed the beam over the entire facing hemisphere (and then some) before penetration. A regular planet might blow up in a different geometrical pattern.

So without a planetary shield, the planet would still explode but part of the beam would keep on going?

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:

Darth Wong wrote:In order for the beam to punch through the planet and come out the other side, there must be a tunnel through the planet which is transparent to the beam. Unless superdense plasma is transparent to the beam, the material in the beam's path will not be evacuated quickly enough to create this transparent tunnel before the beam has finished pouring more than enough energy into its mass to destroy the planet.

As an aside, the Alderaan effect might have been altered by the presence of a planetary shield which dispersed the beam over the entire facing hemisphere (and then some) before penetration. A regular planet might blow up in a different geometrical pattern.

So without a planetary shield, the planet would still explode but part of the beam would keep on going?

No, more like the presence of rings is explained by the shield's net angular momentum and that the early expolsions were likely do to the shield generators going off under the strain. Atleast that's my read.

MrAnderson wrote:I see we have a couple of fucking morons here.

So SW is now an example of real world physics?

I want to know what would happen in the REAL WORLD if you fired a high energy beam like that at a planet.

From what I put together, you think that that big gun is a laser. It is not. It fires a massive volley of subatomic particle called lexons that cause fission. It basically just acts as a giant chain-reation machine.

He asked a layman qusetion, so I gave him a layman answer. I don't think he could hadle all of the actual info.

Admiral Johnason wrote:From what I put together, you think that that big gun is a laser. It is not. It fires a massive volley of subatomic particle called lexons that cause fission. It basically just acts as a giant chain-reation machine.

No, its a giant ray gun. It's whatever a normal Star Wars laser is except bigger. Not a Mysterious Chain Reaction as you and some others like to place it as.

EDIT: I mean FFS we saw the exact same laser in AOTC except smaller. Unless you think that's a giant chain-reaction machine too.

[Obi-Wan]Use your brain, think![/Obi-Wan]

....

Johansen, that's what DarkStar thinks the fucking thing is.

Jesus Christ, you are such a fucking perpetual n00b...

Admiral Johnason wrote:

MrAnderson wrote:I see we have a couple of fucking morons here.

So SW is now an example of real world physics?

I want to know what would happen in the REAL WORLD if you fired a high energy beam like that at a planet.

From what I put together, you think that that big gun is a laser. It is not. It fires a massive volley of subatomic particle called lexons that cause fission. It basically just acts as a giant chain-reation machine.

Please tell me that was a joke response.

Admiral Johnason wrote:

MrAnderson wrote:I see we have a couple of fucking morons here.

So SW is now an example of real world physics?

I want to know what would happen in the REAL WORLD if you fired a high energy beam like that at a planet.

From what I put together, you think that that big gun is a laser. It is not. It fires a massive volley of subatomic particle called lexons that cause fission. It basically just acts as a giant chain-reation machine.

He asked a layman qusetion, so I gave him a layman answer. I don't think he could hadle all of the actual info.

Could you do worse, perpetual newb? Have you ever read Mike's site, or paid attention at all?

Why haven't we VIed him yet?