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Can Jedi sense the presence of droids?
Posted: 2003-10-21 12:21am
by Shinova
Like how they can sense people coming or around them. Can they sense the same with droids?
Secondly, do their precog work with the same effectiveness against droids as well?
Posted: 2003-10-21 12:23am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Don't know about sensing droids, but precog is precog, whether it's with an animal or a machine.
Posted: 2003-10-21 12:49am
by Illuminatus Primus
Precog is sensing an event before it happens. Sensing the presence of a being is limited to particular biologicals (ie., non-Yuuzhan Vong species).
Posted: 2003-10-21 12:50am
by Shinova
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Precog is sensing an event before it happens. Sensing the presence of a being is limited to particular biologicals (ie., non-Yuuzhan Vong species).
So about sensing a presence: how does it work against inorganics, like droids?
Posted: 2003-10-21 12:59am
by Spanky The Dolphin
It depends on how it works.
Posted: 2003-10-21 01:01am
by Shinova
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:It depends on how it works.
Which means?????
Posted: 2003-10-21 01:08am
by Stormbringer
It seems some can, some can't. My guess is rather than sensing them directly some forces users can senses them indirectly through their effects rather than directly like they do with a living being.
Posted: 2003-10-21 01:11am
by Illuminatus Primus
For instance, Jedi Joe could feel a bunch of stormies coming to get him from across the abandoned space station. The assassin droids he wouldn't detect until there was some direct intent to attack him and precog warned him, I'd think.
Posted: 2003-10-21 01:28am
by Shinova
'kay, thanks everyone.
Re: Can Jedi sense the presence of droids?
Posted: 2003-10-21 01:54am
by Lord Poe
Shinova wrote:Like how they can sense people coming or around them. Can they sense the same with droids?
Yup.
Heir to the Empire
pg.16: Automatically, his hand moved toward his lightsaber; but the motion had barely begun before it stopped. The sense of the creature coming through the doorway... "I'm over here, Threepio," he called.
Luke able to sense C3P0
Posted: 2003-10-21 01:59am
by Shinova
Kay.
I actually made this topic cause I was running the idea of KOSMOS (Xenosaga) vs a Jedi through my head, and wondering if one would be able to sense KOSMOS within a nearby or far vincinity or not.
Posted: 2003-10-21 03:26am
by Trytostaydead
Actually yes, the Jedi can definately sense droids. In the Courtship of Princess Leia, Luke explains to Isolder that just about everything is interconnected with the force. And it's further reinforced by his revelation as he's dying from his encounter with the witch.
Obiwan defined it as an energy being created by all living things, and that is probably the truth, from a certain point of view. I guess it's readily exhibited by living things, but the Force IS the Galaxy, the Force that binds everything together and works just as strong in cold vacuum as it does on a planet full of life.
But back to droids, yes definately. Just as Anakin has an uncanny ability with machines enhanced by the force. All the systems are within the realm of the Force so each has its presence.
Posted: 2003-10-21 04:42am
by Boba Fett
In other books, some character refers to droids as abominations, since the Force is not "flowing" through them.
No...I don't think Force users directly feel the presence of droids.
Or it depends on the certain character's mastery of the Force.
Posted: 2003-10-21 05:26am
by Jason von Evil
Wasn't there a book or something where Luke was hiding with some girl and he couldn't sense R2 and 3CPO when they were at the door? I believe he just said that he felt nothing.
Posted: 2003-10-21 12:09pm
by Enola Straight
There is a Force which flows through droids and other forms of machinery.
Electromagnetism.
I'm sure a Force-user can sense the mechanical emanations of electric and magnetic fields of a droid in operation.
Posted: 2003-10-21 02:28pm
by 2000AD
I think Jedi can detect the "electricity" or power that "flows" through a droid.
Posted: 2003-10-21 04:58pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Methinks that if the Jedi knows the droid personally (ie Luke and Threepio), then they could.
Also, if the droid was Force-sensative.
Posted: 2003-10-21 05:59pm
by Crazedwraith
DPDarkPrimus wrote:Methinks that if the Jedi knows the droid personally (ie Luke and Threepio), then they could.
Also, if the droid was Force-sensative.
Droids can be force-sensitive?
Posted: 2003-10-21 06:02pm
by Lord Pounder
Jorrus C'aboath(sp?) claimed that droids where abominations. "creaures that could reason and think, yet aren't truely a part of the force" or words to that effect.
Re: Can Jedi sense the presence of droids?
Posted: 2003-10-21 06:12pm
by Shinova
Lord Poe wrote:Shinova wrote:Like how they can sense people coming or around them. Can they sense the same with droids?
Yup.
Heir to the Empire
pg.16: Automatically, his hand moved toward his lightsaber; but the motion had barely begun before it stopped. The sense of the creature coming through the doorway... "I'm over here, Threepio," he called.
Luke able to sense C3P0
I asked this same question on a different board and the people there said that Luke didn't actually sense anyone on the other side of the door, so assumed that it must be Threepio.
Posted: 2003-10-21 08:02pm
by YT300000
Yoda wrote:Life creates it. Makes it grow. It's energy surrounds us, and binds us. The rock. The tree.
So, the Force is in rocks, why not other abiotic thing? And IIRC, Jedi can detect sentience (don't know where this is from, but I read it somewhere), so if a droid is sentient, the Jedi should be able to detect that.
Posted: 2003-10-21 09:48pm
by Crown
The fact that precog works with droids is cannon - A New Hope anyone? And it can be argued that they can 'sense' droids from AotC - Obi Wan 'I sense it too!'
Posted: 2003-10-21 09:50pm
by Shinova
Crown wrote:The fact that precog works with droids is cannon - A New Hope anyone?
I don't remember. Where was that?
And it can be argued that they can 'sense' droids from AotC - Obi Wan 'I sense it too!'
Weren't those worms? Or are you talking about TPM's opening scenes?
Posted: 2003-10-21 10:12pm
by Crown
Shinova wrote:Crown wrote:The fact that precog works with droids is cannon - A New Hope anyone?
I don't remember. Where was that?
When Luke was training on the Falcon with the remote.
And it can be argued that they can 'sense' droids from AotC - Obi Wan 'I sense it too!'
Weren't those worms? Or are you talking about TPM's opening scenes?
My bad, you're right they reacted to the worms.
Posted: 2003-10-21 11:17pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Crazedwraith wrote:DPDarkPrimus wrote:Methinks that if the Jedi knows the droid personally (ie Luke and Threepio), then they could.
Also, if the droid was Force-sensative.
Droids can be force-sensitive?
That one assassain droid who hung out with Zukuss was told he was in Tales of the Bounty Hunters, or whatever it was called.