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The Final Fate of Nom Anor

Posted: 2003-10-26 10:39pm
by JME2
We have a little over a week to go before the release of The Unifying Force, the 19th and final book of The New Jedi Order story arc. In less than a week, the fates of many of the key players will be decided and one that we all look forward to is that fate of the Vong Executor who has been causing trouble since the very start: Nom Anor. Should he survive the end of the The New Jedi Order or should his life end before we turn the last page?

Posted: 2003-10-26 10:46pm
by Sea Skimmer
Does anyone even care? The NJO had a strong middle with some great books, but the plot's turned very stupid and there's no way it can be decently wrapped up in one more small paperback.

Posted: 2003-10-26 10:55pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Sea Skimmer wrote:Does anyone even care? The NJO had a strong middle with some great books, but the plot's turned very stupid and there's no way it can be decently wrapped up in one more small paperback.
Nitpick: Its a hardback.

Posted: 2003-10-26 10:59pm
by Ender
He's a very Moriarity like character, I think they should finish him in that vein.

When is the street date BTW?

Posted: 2003-10-26 11:01pm
by Ender
Sea Skimmer wrote:Does anyone even care? The NJO had a strong middle with some great books, but the plot's turned very stupid and there's no way it can be decently wrapped up in one more small paperback.
Out of curiosity, since all you ever do in NJO threads is bemoan the series, why do you bother posting in them?

Posted: 2003-10-26 11:36pm
by Sea Skimmer
Ender wrote:Out of curiosity, since all you ever do in NJO threads is bemoan the series, why do you bother posting in them?
Actually I rarely do that and post in few them anyway.

Posted: 2003-10-27 12:57am
by JME2
Ender wrote:He's a very Moriarity like character, I think they should finish him in that vein.

When is the street date BTW?
November 4.

Posted: 2003-10-27 05:38am
by Darth Fanboy
Ender wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Does anyone even care? The NJO had a strong middle with some great books, but the plot's turned very stupid and there's no way it can be decently wrapped up in one more small paperback.
Out of curiosity, since all you ever do in NJO threads is bemoan the series, why do you bother posting in them?
he does make a good point. NJO finally started getting good before the Force Heretic books and the last novel, there is no way this series can end now without being rushed.

Posted: 2003-10-27 06:05am
by Vympel
Isn't 19 books a silly number to end a series on? Bah, I don't know why you people care about it- 20+ years after Episode VI, it's getting a bit ridiculous I'm afraid (Dune suffered from the same- by the third book I didn't give a toss).

Posted: 2003-10-27 07:16am
by Crown
I liked the idea behind the NJO, the overall story arc thing. It was more promising than Coruscant's crisis of the week that we were getting in the EU before that (with the exception of the X-Wing novels). However some of it was just so poor, I stopped buying the NJO after book 17 (or was it 16?).

Either way I request - nay demand, full spoilers on who is actually in charge of the YV (Shimaera or his shamed one), why they aren't a part of the force, and who finally comits the mass genocide that wipes them off the face of the galaxy at the end!

Posted: 2003-10-27 07:17am
by Master of Ossus
He should die. When you have a recurring villain like this you simply HAVE to kill him, in the end. Moreover, it is HIGHLY unrealistic that anyone who's personally responsible for the deaths of TRILLIANS of beings could possibly be even remotely accepted by the members of the Galaxy at large. Even if the GA were to forgive him, there would be elements that were out to kill him. With the number of people affected negatively by such a character, SOMEONE would eventually succeed in terminating him.

Posted: 2003-10-27 07:55am
by Crown
Master of Ossus wrote:He should die. When you have a recurring villain like this you simply HAVE to kill him, in the end. Moreover, it is HIGHLY unrealistic that anyone who's personally responsible for the deaths of TRILLIANS of beings could possibly be even remotely accepted by the members of the Galaxy at large. Even if the GA were to forgive him, there would be elements that were out to kill him. With the number of people affected negatively by such a character, SOMEONE would eventually succeed in terminating him.
*clears throat*

Kyp Durron

Posted: 2003-10-27 08:52am
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
There's no books between "Reunion" and "The Unifying Force" right?

Posted: 2003-10-27 09:24am
by Darth Fanboy
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:There's no books between "Reunion" and "The Unifying Force" right?
Force Heretic III, then the latest book, Final Prophecy, then Unifying Force.

Posted: 2003-10-28 08:55am
by Lex
he'll die... every single Yuuzhan Vong will die i think, because they'll never surrender... but im kean on knowing

Posted: 2003-10-28 12:16pm
by Kuja
The Republic designs a version of the Krytos Virus that targets Yuuzahn Vong and their creations and he's the first to be infected with it.

EDIT: This is what I WANT to happen. Of course it won't, so don't panic and think I've spoiled the end.

Posted: 2003-10-28 12:37pm
by Tribun
Nom Anor and his long-livety slowly are unnervig.
Time to die for him....

Posted: 2003-10-28 01:44pm
by Lex
Kuja wrote:The Republic designs a version of the Krytos Virus that targets Yuuzahn Vong and their creations and he's the first to be infected with it.

EDIT: This is what I WANT to happen. Of course it won't, so don't panic and think I've spoiled the end.
They already have the Alpha red project.... this could never happen after all stuff about alpha red

Posted: 2003-10-28 03:46pm
by Lord Pounder
I have a question about NJO that i didn't want to start a new thread over as it's only a minor question. I just finished Destiny's Way and i saw that Ylesia is the next part. However according to my friendly Customer Service at WH smith Ylesia isn't a book? What the hell is it and is it important on the timeline?

Posted: 2003-10-28 04:44pm
by Chris OFarrell
Lord Pounder wrote:I have a question about NJO that i didn't want to start a new thread over as it's only a minor question. I just finished Destiny's Way and i saw that Ylesia is the next part. However according to my friendly Customer Service at WH smith Ylesia isn't a book? What the hell is it and is it important on the timeline?
Its an E-Book that was supposed to be released for free at the end of destiny's way. But due to some FUBAR at the printers, it wasn't included.

You can download it from SW.com here:

http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2003/08/ylesia.pdf

Posted: 2003-10-28 08:18pm
by JME2
Lex wrote:
Kuja wrote:The Republic designs a version of the Krytos Virus that targets Yuuzahn Vong and their creations and he's the first to be infected with it.

EDIT: This is what I WANT to happen. Of course it won't, so don't panic and think I've spoiled the end.
They already have the Alpha red project.... this could never happen after all stuff about alpha red
Yes, but I think first we'd better look at this except from the synopsis for TUF:

At the same time, the Jedi’s alliances throughout the galaxy are being tested—and the chances of victory jeopardized—by rogue factions determined to deploy the lethal weapon that will exterminate the Yuuzhan Vong . . . and perhaps countless other species.

Posted: 2003-10-28 10:27pm
by Solauren
Nom Amor will die.

More then likely, at the hands of Tahiri (note, I have not read Final Prophecy yet)

As to the end of the NJO; (Spoiler Space)






















The planet (Zoma Sekot, I know that is spelt wrong) that might be the Vong homeworld will take the Shamed ones and Vong that turn against the Vong hiearcy as it's new citizens and depart

Coruscant will be rebuilt by the GFFA

Shimira will be revealed to be under the control of his Shamed one.

Anakin Solo might be resurrected by Tahiri using Vong cloning and the Lambiant Crystal in his lightsaber (its Crystal Anakin).
I doubts that last part, but I can see it happening to avoid a massive fan fueled assault on Del Ray books

Posted: 2003-10-29 03:54pm
by CmdrWilkens
I think part of the whole NJO arc has been about Nom Anor, he is the villan that has to die for the whole thing to end. I consider it something of the order that while Shimarra is the head honcho the guy who has been the mover and shaker is Nom Anor (much as the Emperor was the head guy but we really only cared about Vader). Now obviously that comparison is fraught with many problems but it does point to the fact that Nom Anor needs to die (or go away permanently) for there to be any conclusion to the story arc.

Posted: 2003-10-29 04:14pm
by JME2
CmdrWilkens wrote:I think part of the whole NJO arc has been about Nom Anor, he is the villan that has to die for the whole thing to end. I consider it something of the order that while Shimarra is the head honcho the guy who has been the mover and shaker is Nom Anor (much as the Emperor was the head guy but we really only cared about Vader). Now obviously that comparison is fraught with many problems but it does point to the fact that Nom Anor needs to die (or go away permanently) for there to be any conclusion to the story arc.
I agree; he was the first Vong we saw, the first of many antagonists with whom we have become aquainted with over the last four years, especially ince that, out of all 19 books (Not counting the e-books), Nom Anor has appeared in 14 of them.

Posted: 2003-10-31 01:35am
by Tychu
i dont know if i want to to lill Nom now, i mean during and after Vector Prime than 3 books after Balancing Point i hated Nom. now that i see Tsavong Lah and Lord Shimrraa was much more power hungry and should be shot ten times over more than Nom Anor ive come to like Nom. He should survive to live in the underbellies of society and make a new type of Black Sun thing in the new Galactic Alliance galaxy