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Okay, we know for a fact that Executor and Chimera were there, making one confirmed SSD and ISD. I personally think there were probably, based on what we saw, at least one hundred to two hundred SD's making up the pincer-end of the Emperor's grand trap.

IIRC it was about 10 MCs (and some support ships,) to about 20-30 SDs of various types.

Add the novelization and you have a few dozen cruisers on the MC side.

I'm interested at why you think there will be 200.

So am I

Don't we have this info somewhere on tha site or boards already?

Anyhow , for some reason the number 31 jumps to mind for the Imperial Fleet at Endor, plus of course the Death Star II. This would correspond to the Executor's Death Squadron, plus one mustered Sector Fleet of 24 ISD's. Sounds reasonalble to me, 31 ISD's is enough to handle most any threat, 200 would be over kill on a scale some one as smug and overconfident as the Emperor would never think of.....

"What was that Moff Manstein, bring a Fleet of 300 ISD's from the core, ambush the Rebel Fleet as it exits hyperspace at Endor and annihilate them in a single salvo.......thats absurd, your demoted to Hutt ass-valet at once. Now back to my cunning plan..........."

Sokar wrote:Don't we have this info somewhere on tha site or boards already?

Anyhow , for some reason the number 31 jumps to mind for the Imperial Fleet at Endor, plus of course the Death Star II. This would correspond to the Executor's Death Squadron, plus one mustered Sector Fleet of 24 ISD's. Sounds reasonalble to me, 31 ISD's is enough to handle most any threat, 200 would be over kill on a scale some one as smug and overconfident as the Emperor would never think of.....

"What was that Moff Manstein, bring a Fleet of 300 ISD's from the core, ambush the Rebel Fleet as it exits hyperspace at Endor and annihilate them in a single salvo.......thats absurd, your demoted to Hutt ass-valet at once. Now back to my cunning plan..........."

Also would be alot harder to hide that many ships entering the system fom potential Rebel Spies.

Isolder74 wrote: Also would be alot harder to hide that many ships entering the system fom potential Rebel Spies.

Given that thoes self same 'Rebel Spies' managed to fail to report to the High Command the presence of over 30 ISD's and the goddamed Executor, I think it would have been a wise move on the Empires part. Besides , the Empire could have had them lurk in deep space till only hours before they were needed, and then blamo, no more pesky Rebel Fleet

i just watched ROTJ and counted 45, but i could have missed one or two

How about support ships? The rebs brought in frigates.. wouldn't the Imps have frigates and corvettes and other support crafts?

And seriously, how did the Imperials lose? You would've thought, if the ISDs just went in for concentrated salvos against the outnumbered MC's..

Saxton estimated about 27 Imperial capital ships with a minimum of 22.
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/misc.html#boendor

Trytostaydead wrote: And seriously, how did the Imperials lose? You would've thought, if the ISDs just went in for concentrated salvos against the outnumbered MC's..

Blame the emperor.

Thanks to him wanting to show off his new superlaser, the Imperial fleet only targeted the smallest vessels and moved to block them in, while the rebels concentraited their fire on the highest priority targets.

It was something like 36 Mon cals at the most IIRC, an unknown number of lesser vessels, and 27 Imperial vessels.

Sokar wrote:
Given that thoes self same 'Rebel Spies' managed to fail to report to the High Command the presence of over 30 ISD's and the goddamed Executor

Which was why the commando teams shuttle was so surprised to meet it… hey wait they weren’t. Clearly they expected some Imperial warships but expected to be able to overwhelm them or at least keep them busy while the reactor was attacked.

Yes, 200 was indeed overkill. My bad.

Ender wrote:It was something like 36 Mon cals at the most IIRC, an unknown number of lesser vessels, and 27 Imperial vessels.

36 MC cruisers? That seems like a bit much.

phongn wrote:

Ender wrote:It was something like 36 Mon cals at the most IIRC, an unknown number of lesser vessels, and 27 Imperial vessels.

36 MC cruisers? That seems like a bit much.

How so? Most Mon Cal cruisers are lesser warships compared to the Imperial vessels. They had at least an Executor, an unknown cruiser, and plenty of ISDs. It's not unreasonable for 36 Mon Cals to be at Endor.

For one, we've never actually seen that many cruisers - I've only counted a third as many.

phongn wrote:For one, we've never actually seen that many cruisers - I've only counted a third as many.

But we never get a really good shot of the entire Rebel fleet so there's not really any definitive answer on the number of ships. If canon is silent official should stand.

Stormbringer wrote:

phongn wrote:For one, we've never actually seen that many cruisers - I've only counted a third as many.

But we never get a really good shot of the entire Rebel fleet so there's not really any definitive answer on the number of ships. If canon is silent official should stand.

And where in official does it indicate that many MCs at Endor?

Super-Gagme wrote:

Stormbringer wrote:

phongn wrote:For one, we've never actually seen that many cruisers - I've only counted a third as many.

But we never get a really good shot of the entire Rebel fleet so there's not really any definitive answer on the number of ships. If canon is silent official should stand.

And where in official does it indicate that many MCs at Endor?

Ask Ender, I don't know.

ya i wondered about same thing... 36 MC's at one point that seems like more that the rebels could bring at this time

Stormbringer wrote:

Super-Gagme wrote:

Stormbringer wrote: But we never get a really good shot of the entire Rebel fleet so there's not really any definitive answer on the number of ships. If canon is silent official should stand.

And where in official does it indicate that many MCs at Endor?

Ask Ender, I don't know.

I'm preaty sure it doesn't.

Granted we never get the best shots of the Rebel fleet and many times we may be counting the same ship again and again. But we get enough long distance shots of the rebel fleet to get at least an idea of numbers. I'd say there were between five and ten at best.

Super-Gagme wrote:
And where in official does it indicate that many MCs at Endor?

The novel says that several dozen cruisers maneuver against the Imperial force.

Sea Skimmer wrote:

Super-Gagme wrote:
And where in official does it indicate that many MCs at Endor?

The novel says that several dozen cruisers maneuver against the Imperial force.

Well either the novel is refering to not just the mon cals but all the smaller ships that might be catogorised as cruisers or its simply contradicted. There were NOT several dozen Mon Cals, unless they constently managed to dodge away from the rebel fleet whenever the cameras turned their eyes on them

I count 13 to the starboard of the Executor, and it's likely that the Executor was suppose to be the center of the formation, so I would say 27 would probably be the best number.

Chris OFarrell wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote:

Super-Gagme wrote:
And where in official does it indicate that many MCs at Endor?

The novel says that several dozen cruisers maneuver against the Imperial force.

Well either the novel is refering to not just the mon cals but all the smaller ships that might be catogorised as cruisers or its simply contradicted. There were NOT several dozen Mon Cals, unless they constently managed to dodge away from the rebel fleet whenever the cameras turned their eyes on them

1) Yes it is based off the niovel's statemetn of "dozens"
2) We did not see alot of the battle. The novel mentions a number of ships and events that did not appear onscreen.