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the force and undead (and droids)
Posted: 2003-11-15 01:14am
by Shrykull
Ok so there are no undead in star wars, but can jedi sense droids? They aren't organic and wouldn't really be part of the force. Jedi can sense events before they happen, so they could sense that a droid was going to come at them, but could they sense the presence of the being itself?
Posted: 2003-11-15 01:32am
by zombie84
They could sense the presense of the object itself but not the droids life-force, since a droid obviously is not alive (at least in the traditional sense).
So the question is:
If a droid is killed in a forest and no ones around, does anyone know?
answer: no. not even jedi.
Posted: 2003-11-15 04:49am
by vakundok
zombie84 wrote:They could sense the presense of the object itself but not the droids life-force, since a droid obviously is not alive (at least in the traditional sense).
So the question is:
If a droid is killed in a forest and no ones around, does anyone know?
answer: no. not even jedi.
Are you sure? Anakin was able to 'feel' the internals of devices. If he focused on the droid, he would be able to sense that it was no longer functioning. Of course, Anakin was special.
Later Luke was able to identify Threepio, so he was able to sense more than just an object.
Posted: 2003-11-15 05:50pm
by Connor MacLeod
That depends on what you mean by "sense" - and in what manner.
Posted: 2003-11-15 07:15pm
by YT300000
Posted: 2003-11-15 09:13pm
by Solauren
WRONG
There are Undead in Star Wars
The are usually Sith zombies, Sith Spirits, and the like.
Case in point, there are Sith Zombies (that can toss force lightning no less) in 'Mysteries of the Sith'
I'd say Marko Ragno's state in 'Jedi Academy' is 'Undead'
the same with Exar Kun in the Jedi Academy trilogy
Posted: 2003-11-16 02:42am
by Darth Yoshi
I'm not sure Exar Kun counts. Doesn't being undead usually mean having a physical body, though?
Posted: 2003-11-16 03:06am
by BlkbrryTheGreat
Darth Yoshi wrote:I'm not sure Exar Kun counts. Doesn't being undead usually mean having a physical body, though?
Ghosts and Spirits are both qualigy..... since they're dead yet still hanging about. Hence they're undead.
Posted: 2003-11-16 04:55am
by Brother-Captain Gaius
Those "undead" are only in such a state because they were so powerful in the Force while alive, and remain so, so they are not "true" undead as we think of them.
Posted: 2003-11-16 12:12pm
by Slartibartfast
There are undead in Star Wars. "Jedi Academy" featured ghost pirate LeChuck.
Posted: 2003-11-16 04:50pm
by Shrykull
Solauren wrote:WRONG
There are Undead in Star Wars
The are usually Sith zombies, Sith Spirits, and the like.
Case in point, there are Sith Zombies (that can toss force lightning no less) in 'Mysteries of the Sith'
I'd say Marko Ragno's state in 'Jedi Academy' is 'Undead'
the same with Exar Kun in the Jedi Academy trilogy
how come there are no force ghosts in at least episode 1 and 2, We never see Qui-Gon as one for example.
Posted: 2003-11-16 05:40pm
by zombie84
The films and the EU are two different universes, pretty much.
In the films, its not possible to retain your identity after death. The force ghost trick was something that only Yoda, OB1 and Anakin knew of (though Gui Gon is the first to break through, but only as a vocie in ep II).
Posted: 2003-11-16 07:24pm
by The Yosemite Bear
There has to be at least ONE vampire sith running around at one time or another.... Here let me drain you of your living force to contunue my ennatural existance, seems too easy not to pass up as a possiblity.
Posted: 2003-11-16 07:52pm
by Stormbringer
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Darth Yoshi wrote:I'm not sure Exar Kun counts. Doesn't being undead usually mean having a physical body, though?
Ghosts and Spirits are both qualigy..... since they're dead yet still hanging about. Hence they're undead.
Actually, no. A spirit would not be undead since it has no physical body.
From
http://www.Dictionary.com
undead: No longer living but supernaturally animated, as a zombie.