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Which book was it that Corran Horn found the Jedi Medallion? Krytos Trap? Anyone recall the specific scene? (My books are buried somewhere right now) From what I recall, he found it in an abandoned room that had busts of old Jedi, along with some sort of Jedi Medallion they were awarded.

Reminds me of the Jedi busts in the Jedi Library!

It wasn't a medallion. It was a coin minted by the families of Corellion Jedi to commemorate their rise to Master rank. This has, of course, since been refuted by the movies where Jedi don't HAVE families.

Corran just wore his coin as a medallion and a good-luck charm. Yes, I believe it was The Krytos Trap.

Lord Poe wrote:Which book was it that Corran Horn found the Jedi Medallion? Krytos Trap? Anyone recall the specific scene? (My books are buried somewhere right now) From what I recall, he found it in an abandoned room that had busts of old Jedi, along with some sort of Jedi Medallion they were awarded.

Reminds me of the Jedi busts in the Jedi Library!

The Medallions IIRC were for friends and family of Corellian Jedi who made Knighthood/Mastership. Corran had possessed one from his father, but later found another in Palpy's little "museum", along with a lightsaber. And yes, it was Krytos Trap (he was escaping from the Lusankya, as I remember)

Wasn't there a similar scene in I, Jedi

It wasn't a medallion. It was a coin minted by the families of Corellion Jedi to commemorate their rise to Master rank. This has, of course, since been refuted by the movies where Jedi don't HAVE families.

No, it doesn't really contradict Krytos Trap's assertation.

1) The Correllian branch of the Jedi Order seemed to be a clear sub-sect of the Jedi Order. We know from the canon novelization that the Jedi Order has such things (Qui Gon would have been on the Jedi Council but for inter-sect politics).

2) Several other Jedi Councilors (I don't recall name unfortunately) no less, have families it's just they are expected to dedicate themselves to the Order above everything else.

Stormbringer wrote:

It wasn't a medallion. It was a coin minted by the families of Corellion Jedi to commemorate their rise to Master rank. This has, of course, since been refuted by the movies where Jedi don't HAVE families.

No, it doesn't really contradict Krytos Trap's assertation.

1) The Correllian branch of the Jedi Order seemed to be a clear sub-sect of the Jedi Order. We know from the canon novelization that the Jedi Order has such things (Qui Gon would have been on the Jedi Council but for inter-sect politics).

They also wore differently-colored robes to emphasize that their tradition was seperate from mainstream Jedi.

2) Several other Jedi Councilors (I don't recall name unfortunately) no less, have families it's just they are expected to dedicate themselves to the Order above everything else.

Ki-Adi-Mundi has two wives and a daughter.

Kerneth wrote:This has, of course, since been refuted by the movies where Jedi don't HAVE families.

I would think that the movies would PROVE that Jedi have families - a certain Jedi knight by the name of Anakin seemed to have sired a son and daughter, if I recall correctly.

Besides, I can't think of anything which explicitly states a Jedi cannot wed and sire children. The closest was when Obi-wan admonishes Anakin for daydreaming about Padme, talking about how he "made a commitment to the Jedi Order which isn't easily broken." He could just have been saying that because Anakin was supposed to be concentrating on his assignment, rather than chase Padme.

In regards to the movies we know very little about Jedi society.

They said in AOTC that the Jedi are not allowed to form strong emotional attachments. I interpret this to mean that they are not to put anything above their duties as a Jedi. So I guess it would be ok for a Jedi to marry and have children as long as the Jedi understands that his first priorities are to the Jedi even above his family.

With Anakin, he entered the Jedi Order with preexisting attachments to his mother and Padme, so we see more emphasis on detachment placed on him. We also see that because of those attachments, especially to his mother, that they started him on the path to the dark side.

Why did Lucas decide to turn the Jedi into Vulcans?

Dalton wrote:Why did Lucas decide to turn the Jedi into Vulcans?

I guess because he wanted to show a Jedi Order which deserved to be wiped out by two really pissed off Sith. The story would've been more tragic if the Jedi were people we could actually like and feel sympathetic towards.

Also everyone keeps on comparing the Jedi with the Knights Templar, which I guess Lucas decided to emulate (vows of poverty, chastity etc, though as I said in my above post I can't recall a scene in the PT where Jedi were explicitly forbidden to fool around), a comparison I always found laughable because the OT Jedi never acted like knights.

Dalton wrote:Why did Lucas decide to turn the Jedi into Vulcans?

He hasn't turned them. The jedis (at least the ordinary ones) were 'Vulcans' from the very beginning, we only haven't known about it until recently. This is from 1974 (after a jedi's son was caught making some sex ...):

Lucas wrote:You are trained well, but remember, a JEDI must be single-minded, a discipline your father obviously never learned, hence your existence.

Macross wrote:They said in AOTC that the Jedi are not allowed to form strong emotional attachments.

Which scene was that? I don't doubt it occurred, as I recall something along those lines. I just can't remember where it was said in the film, so I can't place it in it's context.

[quote"The jedi Code"] There is no passion there is serenity[/quote]

A wife and family encourages passion so they are a bad idea.

Stofsk wrote:

Macross wrote:They said in AOTC that the Jedi are not allowed to form strong emotional attachments.

Which scene was that? I don't doubt it occurred, as I recall something along those lines. I just can't remember where it was said in the film, so I can't place it in it's context.

The scene where Padme says "I thought Jedi werent allowed to love."

As far as Ki-Adi-Mundi is concerned, he was allowed to be a special exception by the Jedi Council because his species (I forget what they're called) has a very low birth rate, and everyone of their society needs to contribute if they are to survive.

Macross wrote:The scene where Padme says "I thought Jedi werent allowed to love."

PADME: Are you allowed to love? I thought that was fobidden for a Jedi.

ANAKIN: Attatchment is forbidden.

As far as Ki-Adi-Mundi is concerned, he was allowed to be a special exception by the Jedi Council because his species (I forget what they're called) has a very low birth rate, and everyone of their society needs to contribute if they are to survive.

Cereans.

I thought Ki-Adi-Mundi had more than two wives, since with his people for every male child twenty females are born.