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Star Wars II

Posted: 2003-11-17 12:24am
by Jeremy
I don't know if this has been covered, probably has but I never read it.

So why didn't the Republic use the Acclamaters to fire on the Droids as artillery?

Posted: 2003-11-17 12:46am
by Howedar
Because the Republican forces wanted to capture the Separatist computers and info and shit. Stated in Inside the Worlds of AOTC.

Posted: 2003-11-17 12:49am
by Lord of the Farce
Avoiding the resulting civilian casualties, probably. They probably have some sort of Rules of Engagement about it.

Posted: 2003-11-17 12:57am
by Darth Garden Gnome
Lord of the Farce wrote:Avoiding the resulting civilian casualties, probably. They probably have some sort of Rules of Engagement about it.
There did not appear to be any large Geonosian settlements in the vicinity of the arena; the only civilians in the entire battle zone may have been those in the arena when the Jedi attack, in which case they had surely fled.

But because the Geonosian war room was buried somewhere near the battle zone it would be important not to wreck it with turbolaser shots.

Posted: 2003-11-17 01:02am
by Stormbringer
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:There did not appear to be any large Geonosian settlements in the vicinity of the arena; the only civilians in the entire battle zone may have been those in the arena when the Jedi attack, in which case they had surely fled.
Dude, with 200 gigatons a shot it's hard to be terribly discriminating. Even few shots are going to create a lot of collateral damage.
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:But because the Geonosian war room was buried somewhere near the battle zone it would be important not to wreck it with turbolaser shots.
That's also important too. And with their ground troops on the ground to seize key Seperatist leaders and instalations it would be difficult to provide fire support.

Kind of like using Atomic Annie for squad fire support.

Posted: 2003-11-17 01:10am
by Darth Garden Gnome
Stormbringer wrote:Dude, with 200 gigatons a shot it's hard to be terribly discriminating. Even few shots are going to create a lot of collateral damage.
Surely they have the ability to adjust the firepower of their turbolasers--200 gigatons seems rather to be its maximum yield. In any event, the Acclamators also wield laser cannons with yields of 6 megatons; more than enough to wipe out the CIS ground forces.
That's also important too. And with their ground troops on the ground to seize key Seperatist leaders and instalations it would be difficult to provide fire support.
Indeed. Capture of important people and facilities was most likely the primary concern of Republic forces on Geonosis.

Posted: 2003-11-17 01:41am
by Stormbringer
Surely they have the ability to adjust the firepower of their turbolasers--200 gigatons seems rather to be its maximum yield. In any event, the Acclamators also wield laser cannons with yields of 6 megatons; more than enough to wipe out the CIS ground forces.
Yes, they could but even scaling them down to extraordinarly low power is risky for collateral damage to civilians and friendly military forces. Especially considering the Navy probably never worked in that sort of operation before, increasing the risk of massive friendly fire casulaties.

Posted: 2003-11-17 02:06am
by Knife
Remember, as far as Yoda knew at the outset of the battle, he was there to help rescue Obi-wan and to stunt the Sepertist cause. Massive bombardment of the planet would not be a acceptable tactic.

Posted: 2003-11-17 02:42am
by Stofsk
Is it possible the Acclamators were busy dealing with troop debarkation as well as dealing with the Trade Federation battleships in orbit?

In any case using their weapons to saturate the surface would be the equivalent of burning down the house to catch a single mouse. Those Clone troopers were valuable, plus as has been mentioned the Seperatist HQ was a target to capture, not destroy.

Posted: 2003-11-17 01:52pm
by Lord Pounder
Where Acclamators build to hit a planet? IIRC only Victory and Imperial class Destroyers where built for hitting planetry targets.

Posted: 2003-11-17 01:55pm
by Stormbringer
Lord Pounder wrote:Where Acclamators build to hit a planet? IIRC only Victory and Imperial class Destroyers where built for hitting planetry targets.
Why wouldn't they be? Ordinary turbolasers can quite easily hit planetary targets so why would the acclamator's turbolasers not be able to do likewise?


The more likely explanation is a simple desire to reduce collateral damage to civilian population centers near military targets and a desire to avoid friendly fire were they used in a fire support role.

Posted: 2003-11-17 04:21pm
by MrAnderson
The Clonetroopers routed the droid army with ease in a matter of minutes. Why add further chaos and increase casualties among the Clonetroopers by using orbittal bombardment.

Posted: 2003-11-17 10:48pm
by Jeremy
So are you saying that even though the battles took place away from any noticeable population center even the weakest possible shot from an Acclamater would have still been too destructive?

Posted: 2003-11-17 10:57pm
by Stormbringer
Jeremy wrote:So are you saying that even though the battles took place away from any noticeable population center even the weakest possible shot from an Acclamater would have still been too destructive?
A) We don't know how close the nearest population center was. Given the crowds in the arena and the massive manufacturing it can't be too far away.

B) It's not just the population centers, it's the possibility of hitting your own army. Keep in mind that it's entirely doubtful the navy crews have had the real life training. Hence why risk it when they clones did the job nicely?

Posted: 2003-11-18 01:35am
by SPOOFE
So are you saying that even though the battles took place away from any noticeable population center even the weakest possible shot from an Acclamater would have still been too destructive?
I think they're trying to tell you that it would have been UNNECESSARY.

Think of it this way: If the United States unleashed its strongest nukes in response to every tiny, insignificant conflict - such as Bosnia, or Kosovo - what would the reaction from the rest of the world, or even its own population, have been?

Posted: 2003-11-18 06:21am
by Sarevok
Jeremy wrote:So are you saying that even though the battles took place away from any noticeable population center even the weakest possible shot from an Acclamater would have still been too destructive?
At the very least Anakin, Amidala and Obiwan would have killed had the Accamalators opened fire.

Posted: 2003-11-18 11:34pm
by Jeremy
At the very least Anakin, Amidala and Obiwan would have killed had the Accamalators opened fire.
right, you know what I am going to say so I won't
Think of it this way: If the United States unleashed its strongest nukes in response to every tiny, insignificant conflict - such as Bosnia, or Kosovo - what would the reaction from the rest of the world, or even its own population, have been?
If it would have been on the Chinese Embassy, a minor out cry and then everyone forgets it so they can bash the good President Bush and make Mr. Clinton's administration look like heaven. :P

I just have a problem with sending out such large numbers of infranty, even if they are massed produced they are still Humans, and was wondering why they chose such a tactic that seemed to only waste more Human life.