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According to the works of Stackpole the Corellian Jedi had a signifigantly different System to the Standard one shown in the PT. For one thing they took wifes and had famillies.

Do we see any Corellian Jedi in the PT? If so does it contradict the EU's version of them?

To my knowledge, we see no Corellian Jedi. In fact, no mention of them is made. Therefore, there is nothing to directly contradict Stackpole's work. Yet.

Stoackpole's work contradicts everything mentioned about the Jedi Order in the first two movies.

MrAnderson wrote:Stoackpole's work contradicts everything mentioned about the Jedi Order in the first two movies.

Not so. It was stated that the corellian Jedi were a semi-independant order that differed from the main order ie) to corusantian one we see in the PT.

This debate is already on this board somewhere in another thread. I think its in there as an OT digression, though. But we know that there were different sects within the Jedi Order. Qui-gon Jinn would have been on the council except for sect politics. (That last sentence is a direct quote from someone, I think. Don't remember who or in which thread, though. )

Rogue 9 wrote:This debate is already on this board somewhere in another thread. I think its in there as an OT digression, though. But we know that there were different sects within the Jedi Order. Qui-gon Jinn would have been on the council except for sect politics. (That last sentence is a direct quote from someone, I think. Don't remember who or in which thread, though. )

Me, thank you very much.

And the other thread is here.

I haven't read much EU, but I always assumed that the Jedi couldn't have had much of a presence on Correlia, seeing as how Han didn't believe in the Force. Of course, I don't know how much time Han actually spent on Corellia.

Han said he'd never seen anything to make him believe that there was one all-powerful Force controlling everything. He claimed that the Jedi's power was all "simple tricks and nonsense." So he may have seen Corellian Jedi and dismissed it all as parlor tricks. Who knows?

Edit: Also, the Halcyon line of Jedi (Corellians) could not use the telekinesis powers of the Force, and were instead very good at illusions and mind perception. Much easier to dismiss an illusion of a ship raising into the air then it is to see a Jedi actually lift the Falcon. (Yes, I know he never lived on Corellia after he had the Falcon. Just illustrating my point.)

Rogue 9 wrote:This debate is already on this board somewhere in another thread. I think its in there as an OT digression, though. But we know that there were different sects within the Jedi Order. Qui-gon Jinn would have been on the council except for sect politics. (That last sentence is a direct quote from someone, I think. Don't remember who or in which thread, though. )

That would contradict statements by Qui Gon. When speaking of Anakin he told his mother:

"If Anakin had been born in the Republic he would have been noticed.... blah blah blah"

This implies very clearly that the Jedi Qui Gon is part of have every member of the Republic scanned for Force abilities and those found to be positive are trained by them as Jedi. so if Corellia is part of the Republic (is anything mentioned either way in any movie?) then the idea that there is another order of Jedi who operate different doesnt really work out in my opinion.

MrAnderson wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:This debate is already on this board somewhere in another thread. I think its in there as an OT digression, though. But we know that there were different sects within the Jedi Order. Qui-gon Jinn would have been on the council except for sect politics. (That last sentence is a direct quote from someone, I think. Don't remember who or in which thread, though. )

That would contradict statements by Qui Gon. When speaking of Anakin he told his mother:

"If Anakin had been born in the Republic he would have been noticed.... blah blah blah"

This implies very clearly that the Jedi Qui Gon is part of have every member of the Republic scanned for Force abilities and those found to be positive are trained by them as Jedi. so if Corellia is part of the Republic (is anything mentioned either way in any movie?) then the idea that there is another order of Jedi who operate different doesnt really work out in my opinion.

Why not? If Coruscant Jedi ID you, then you'll get sent to Coruscant. Seeings as Corellian Jedi are a different order altogether it would make sense that they handle things differently. Corellian Jedi are allowed to have families, which implies the Force tradition is kept within the family (assuming that Force sensitivity is inherited, which is true at least of the Skywalker and Horn families).

Remember also that the Republic spans the galaxy and encompasses trillions of inhabitants. With numbers like that, anything is possible. It isn't implausible to suggest the Corellian Jedi have a different set of traditions and doctrines than the Coruscant (or Republic) Jedi.

It's already been mentioned the inter-sect rivalries that kept Qui-gon from gainng a position on the Council. This pretty much states there are different Jedi traditions.

Did you even bother to remember that the Jedi Order shown in the PT was driven to extinction and the OT EU shows a new Jedi Order started by Luke that has many differences from the first?

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Did you even bother to remember that the Jedi Order shown in the PT was driven to extinction and the OT EU shows a new Jedi Order started by Luke that has many differences from the first?

To whom are you addressing?

If to me, yes I am aware that Luke created a new Jedi Order from the ground up. I am also aware that the PT Jedi were wiped out (which would include the Corellian Jedi as well, one would assume).

To the OP: as far as I am aware, no, the Corellian Jedi do not appear in the movies.

I am addressing the thread in general, but primarily the OP: MrAnderson. In my opinion, he is debating an issue that doesn't actually exist.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I am addressing the thread in general, but primarily the OP: MrAnderson. In my opinion, he is debating an issue that doesn't actually exist.

No, Spanky, you're just not paying much attention to the opening post.


He's asking about the difference between the Corellian Jedi as Stackpole portrayed them and the Prequel Jedi. The issue is far from pointless.

Well then excuse me. I've never read stackpole, so I just assumed it was another of his masturbatory fuck-ups.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well then excuse me. I've never read stackpole, so I just assumed it was another of his masturbatory fuck-ups.

So you decided a topic you had no clue about was settled? Spanky, you really need to think before you leap in like this.

I assumed it was OT EU Jedi in general.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I assumed it was OT EU Jedi in general.

Did you even read the opening post? It was about the pre-clone wars Correllian Jedi and how the related the order at large.

I was tired at the time and my mind wandered as I was reading the thread. I apologise and concede.

By the time the Jedi is Re-Formed Luke has had access to the data Horn's grandfather had left behind. IIRC Horn's adopted grandfather encoded shit loads of data into the Genetic Structure of his flowers. So the Jedi Order that luke forms could have been more based on Corellian Jedi than Inner Rim Jedi like those on Corruscant.

Obviously. Check out Luke and Mara Jade.