Is the Clone Wars Cartoon series canon? (or "quasi-cano

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2003-11-28 12:00pm

Sorry if this has been asked and answered already on here (couldn't remember), but do we have any idea how 'official' in the official continuity the Clone Wars series on cartoon network is?

Because we saw a lot of interesting technology related stuff (including lightsabers that work under the ocean for extended periods in combat with no problems).

Thanks in advance!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-11-28 12:05pm

Star Wars: Clone Wars is on the official level.

All the previous television incarnations of SW have been official, and the Clone Wars entries on SW.com's Databank are in the EU section.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-11-28 01:22pm

Its not official, all the television series are EU.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-11-28 01:23pm

zombie84 wrote:Its not official, all the television series are EU.

EU = Official.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-11-28 01:39pm

no.

EU=EU

Official=cannon

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-11-28 01:57pm

zombie84 wrote:no.

EU=EU

Official=cannon

No no no...

Official = Official

Canon = Canon

Or:

Extended Universe (novels, comics, games, guides...) = Official

Films, novelisations, scripts, radio dramas, ICSs = Canon

That's how it's always been. Official is Canon when it's not contradicted by Canon.

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2003-11-28 07:54pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Extended Universe (novels, comics, games, guides...) = Official

Films, novelisations, scripts, radio dramas, ICSs = Canon

Just to be more precise:
EU = Apocrypha = Official

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2003-11-28 08:41pm

Lord of the Farce wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Extended Universe (novels, comics, games, guides...) = Official

Films, novelisations, scripts, radio dramas, ICSs = Canon
Just to be more precise:
EU = Apocrypha = Official

Actually, I beleive the term 'apocrypha' is used for less-than-official status material, such as game mechanics, some Marvel comics, and the like. The Prophets of the Darkside book set might also fall under this category, assuming it's ever even mentioned anymore.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-28 11:32pm

Everything outside the movies and their directly related literature is considered only "quasi-canon". That's not to say it's worthless, but it's treated as a history rather than an observation. And of course, the fact that it's obviously hand-drawn means that even under suspension of disbelief, we must assume that somebody in SW actually drew it based on what he saw, hence there is more interpretation and artistic license than an imaginary SW cameraman.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-11-29 03:20am

I'm still waiting for a guest appearance of Dexter.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2003-11-29 05:37pm

*L* "For I Dexter boy genius shall complete this mighty station the Death Star andddd..... Ooooooo what does this button do????? Deedee NOOOOOOOOOOO

Lt. Dan · Post by **Lt. Dan** » 2003-11-30 01:17am

If it's canon, the clone troopers are some bad-ass mothas. The whole tank-entery was great.(When one of the blue clone troopers jumps up the tank, jumps up and fires at the top, drops in, kicks ass, and jumps out to safty.)

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-11-30 08:10pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Star Wars: Clone Wars is on the official level.

All the previous television incarnations of SW have been official, and the Clone Wars entries on SW.com's Databank are in the EU section.

They're official but they are given a sort of priority official status from what I understand.

Clone Sergeant · Post by **Clone Sergeant** » 2003-12-01 02:23am

Stormbringer wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Star Wars: Clone Wars is on the official level.

All the previous television incarnations of SW have been official, and the Clone Wars entries on SW.com's Databank are in the EU section.
They're official but they are given a sort of priority official status from what I understand.

That's true. Based on the commentaries for the chapters on the official site, Lucas had a lot of direct input into what appeared in the show.

For example it was Lucas who decided that there would be Geonosian fighters in the space battle over Muunilist rather than the Droid fighters Tartakovsky and co. had planned on originally.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-12-01 03:02am

Quasi-Canon in my humble opinion, based on the complete fuck-up of first contact with Mon Calamari.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2003-12-01 07:20pm

By that I assume you mean that the Mon Calamari "first contact" as you call it happens differently elsewhere in the EU?

What do we do when two EU sources contradict each other but the canon sources are silent?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-12-02 12:32am

I'm so fucking tired of the term "quasi-canon," ugh. It sounds so measly and dodgy. They should just use the term "official" in regards to the EU and save themselves further embarassment...

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-12-02 01:44am

Kurgan wrote:By that I assume you mean that the Mon Calamari "first contact" as you call it happens differently elsewhere in the EU?

What do we do when two EU sources contradict each other but the canon sources are silent?

I mean the pre-Clone Wars first contact with the Empire taking over the planet - that's more fitting to me than the Clone Wars origin.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2003-12-02 03:12am

Well you never know, the Empire might still take it over later.

Perhaps in a "peacekeeping mission" occupation or something...

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » 2003-12-02 07:38pm

I'd say both version of Moncal first contact are in error. I mean Moncal has Galactic Senator and is therefore a sector capital. Not much chance that it was recently discovered. We have Quaren gangsters, and senators, and even Mon Cal Jedi running around. It pretty obvious that the Mon Cal just like the Wookiee's were major players before the time of the empire. Now the Empire did ocuppy the Mon Cal home world and enslave its people, but the first contact story has obviously been retroconned.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2003-12-03 02:23pm

Its not official, all the television series are EU.

EU = Official.

Everything outside the movies and their directly related literature is considered only "quasi-canon". That's not to say it's worthless, but it's treated as a history rather than an observation.

Incidentally (and not to start a fight or anything), does this mean the Star Wars Holiday Special is also official?

Or is it not because GL stated he wanted to "burn every copy" ? ; )

I mean I know everybody hates Glove of Darth Vader but that's still official according to the "official policy" too right?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-12-03 05:13pm

I believe the Glove of Darth Vader has been declared apocrypha, with the "infinities" symbol and all.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2003-12-04 03:43am

Interesting...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-12-04 04:28am

I'm surprised that TGoDV series was even being published recently enough to get the Infinities label...

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-12-04 08:34pm

Kurgan wrote:I mean I know everybody hates Glove of Darth Vader but that's still official according to the "official policy" too right?

Kind of. Essentially, the Trioculus affair is mentioned in the Essential Chronology, but their view-point was that the Moff's were attempting to move against Yssane Isard, who at that point was in control of the Empire. It even states that Isard was the one who let loose Jabba's father, Zorba, into the fray in order to foster chaos against those who dared oppose her. With Trioculus, Zorba, and, as they put it, a shadowy group of Mystics called the Prophets of the Dark Side, having wiped themselves out, Isard executed the Moffs involved with the conspiracy, thereby stabilizing her position as head of the Empire.

(Of course, they dropped the whole Ken & the City of the Jedi/Han marries Leia early-sbuplot, thankfully)

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Is the Clone Wars Cartoon series canon? (or "quasi-cano

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