AT-TE is still in service

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-01-20 09:01pm

I read on TFN that the AT-TE is still in service come the OT period, with SW Empire #16 have an appearance (along with the Juggernaut).

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-01-20 09:06pm

Vympel wrote:I read on TFN that the AT-TE is still in service come the OT period, with SW Empire #16 have an appearance (along with the Juggernaut).

Figures, it's a brilliant design. I couldn't think of a reason to stop using it.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-20 09:34pm

Beautiful.

I'd expect Acclamator's to be in mothballs/reserves/outlier forces. How cool would it be to see XG-1s and repulsortanks and tracked tanks pouring out of an Imperial Acclamator?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-20 09:43pm

What might be the reason that it was not used on Hoth? Though it could be added in I suppose.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-01-20 09:45pm

neoolong wrote:What might be the reason that it was not used on Hoth? Though it could be added in I suppose.

Insufficient armor?

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-01-20 11:34pm

Been brought up, probably, but the acclamators can land, right? Can Star destroyers?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-01-20 11:35pm

Chardok wrote:Been brought up, probably, but the acclamators can land, right? Can Star destroyers?

With at least ten times the mass and no known landing gear, it's doubtful.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-01-20 11:37pm

No, it's stated that while the smaller Victory-class SDs can enter the atmosphere (ISDs are too large), neither it nor the ISD can actually land.

The only landing an ISD can do is a crash.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-01-21 12:31am

Lazy Raptor wrote:
neoolong wrote:What might be the reason that it was not used on Hoth? Though it could be added in I suppose.
Insufficient armor?

Wait for the Special-Special Edition.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-01-21 12:58am

Vympel wrote:I read on TFN that the AT-TE is still in service come the OT period, with SW Empire #16 have an appearance (along with the Juggernaut).

Oh really? And I wonder if the AT-TE fits any of the unidentified walkers mention on Curtis Saxton's page. There are some that might be a good possibility.

neoolong wrote:What might be the reason that it was not used on Hoth? Though it could be added in I suppose.

There's no reason to think they'd need to be. The AT-TE is the equivalent of an MBT and there wasn't much need for it since the AT-ATs did the job just fine.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-21 01:00am

Stormbringer wrote:There's no reason to think they'd need to be. The AT-TE is the equivalent of an MBT and there wasn't much need for it since the AT-ATs did the job just fine.

No it isn't.

The AT-TE is a APC with the odd added benefit of direct-fire support from the projectile cannon.

The AT-AT is just another generation of APC walker.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-01-21 01:19am

Stormbringer wrote:
Vympel wrote:I read on TFN that the AT-TE is still in service come the OT period, with SW Empire #16 have an appearance (along with the Juggernaut).
Oh really? And I wonder if the AT-TE fits any of the unidentified walkers mention on Curtis Saxton's page. There are some that might be a good possibility.

Negative. IIRC, there are none that fit the correct description, and most iof his unidentified walkers have images but no names.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-01-21 01:24am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:No it isn't.

The AT-TE is a APC with the odd added benefit of direct-fire support from the projectile cannon.

The AT-AT is just another generation of APC walker.

I don't know, the AT-TE stands for All Terrain-Tactical Enforcer; it lacks the word 'Transport' like all the others. In the ICS, its classification is "assualt walker", rather than an armored APC.

So then, perhaps the classifaction is opposite of what you said: it's a MBT with added benefit of having troopers for support.

Relevent text:
"In the event of a close assualt by enemy infantry, an AT-TE can dismount its two squads of troops to enter the fray and secure the immediate surroundings." ICS P.29

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-01-21 01:27am

I would've liked AT-TEs on Hoth more than AT-ATs; the extensive amount of swivel blaster cannons on the front and rear mean pretty good defense against T-47s- of course the downside is we don't know if they'd be vulnerable to those Rebel fixed guns or not.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-01-21 01:29am

AT-TEs can't carry as many ground troops. AT-ATs would have been better for taking Echo Base.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2004-01-21 01:47am

Well, as in SW TCG, there are modifications of AT-TE, two being an attack walker (23X and 71E) and one - troop transport (that one used on Geonosis in AOTC).

But I don't know if SW TCG is a true EU source.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-01-21 01:50am

AT-TEs seem to be more like MBTs rather than armoured transports. They probobly were designed for armoured combat and not transporting troops.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-01-21 01:56am

Stas Bush wrote:Well, as in SW TCG, there are modifications of AT-TE, two being an attack walker (23X and 71E) and one - troop transport (that one used on Geonosis in AOTC).

But I don't know if SW TCG is a true EU source.

What's the TCG?

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2004-01-21 03:24am

TCG is the Trading Card Game. It introduced some new stuff, although I don't know if one can count it. Have a look.
AT-TE 23X:

AT-TE 71E:

AT-TE Troop Transport:

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2004-01-21 06:34am

Don't AT-AT's have a longer drive (that is, each pace is longer in distance) than the AT-TE? That could account for the deployment of AT-AT's, they would reach Echo Base faster. (It is a flimsy reason, but valid.)
Besides, AT-AT have the ability to carry speeders.
Also, since Vader's Death Squadron is, for all intents and purposes, the most prestigious taskforce in the Imperial Navy, it must have the best and latest equipment, hence the use of AT-AT's, and AT-ST's.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-01-21 06:43am

Stas: Yeah, I think those would count, since the old Decipher CCG did, but they're somewhat low on the Offical scale.

Although I don't see what the difference is between the 71E and the 23X, since they both just have longer legs than the standard AT-TE.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-01-21 11:50am

I personally would say the AT-TE fits almost perfectly the role of a Merkava. It is designed as a MBT with inbuilt infantry support.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2004-01-21 12:00pm

Spanky The Dolphin,
the difference between 71E and 23X may be not visible - it may be something connected with cannon firepower or shielding, and somehow (by game stats) the 71E is faster than 23X.

But the visible difference between them and the AT-TE model seen in AOTC is not only in legs. They don't have this thin metal border around the cockpit, which the AT-TE transport has, although that is a minor difference.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-01-21 12:01pm

I can think of a good reason the AT-TE wasn't at Hoth, but it's an artistic reason not an in-universe. AT-ATs were designed to look like war elephants, which is what Lucas and ILM were going for. You know, Hannibal and his War Elephants. It would be silly if it was Hannibal and his Giant War Crickets, eh?

Ahem, anyway, there is no reason to get rid of the AT-TE, so it's probably still in service. While slow, it's faster than AT-ATs and it's actually have a low center of gravity, which is something you can't say for most Imperial mechas. I still think that tanks would be the way to go though.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2004-01-21 12:14pm

Gil Hamilton, why you're still negative towards Imperial mechs? What would you do on Endor then, use chaintrack or repulsorlift tanks? You think they could get through that forest? Although the AT-ST, I must admit, is not exactly the best walker design.
In fact, if you had seen the SWGB game, you know there's a small clone single-person biped walker. Low centre of gravity, too. That would be I think better than the AT-ST, if still in Imperial use:

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