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What is humanity's homeworld?

Posted: 2004-01-25 08:28pm
by Mlenk
Has it ever been stated anywhere about the origins of humans in SW?

Posted: 2004-01-25 09:17pm
by Rogue 9
I remember seeing this thread at least twice since I've been here. Short answer: No one knows, although I've seen arguments for Corellia, Coruscant, and Spanky the Dolphin has some weird theory about the hyperspace aliens bringing them from future Earth.

Posted: 2004-01-25 10:36pm
by The Aliens
DW's fanfic said they crashed on Coruscant from the Federation through a time-warp... I favour the Corellian theory, persoanlly.

Posted: 2004-01-25 10:44pm
by Darth Raptor
I would be inclined to believe that humans evolved on Earth, but for all practical purposes (rise and spread of civilization etc.) originated on Coruscant. How they wound up on Coruscant is anyone's guess, but I don't think SW humans are just superficially similar to Earth humans, because there are other Earth species in the SW galaxy (horses etc.).

Posted: 2004-01-25 10:50pm
by Rogue 9
There are horses in the GFFA? :?

Posted: 2004-01-25 10:54pm
by Crayz9000
Rogue 9 wrote:There are horses in the GFFA? :?
On Endor. See the Ewok movies...

Posted: 2004-01-25 10:54pm
by Darth Raptor
Rogue 9 wrote:There are horses in the GFFA? :?
Yes, and Ewoks use ponies. There are also numerous references to dogs and other domesticated Earth animals. While they could of course be refering to analogous but seperate species, the horses look completely identical to modern Earth breeds. Add this to the identical humans. Too much of a coincidence for me.

Posted: 2004-01-25 11:08pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Rogue 9 wrote:I remember seeing this thread at least twice since I've been here. Short answer: No one knows, although I've seen arguments for Corellia, Coruscant, and Spanky the Dolphin has some weird theory about the hyperspace aliens bringing them from future Earth.
While I am flattered, I cannot take full credit for that theory. Both IP and I share that theory.

Basically it's that the HA build Centerpoint Station, construct the Corellian System, create the Maw, use it to travel to Earth at the time of Cro-Magnon man, take them and other various plant and animal species back to the GFFA, and put humans and most species on Corellia (as well as scattering the non-human stuff around nearby systems). My theory goes a bit further in the HA using the Maw to travel to another plane of existance, where they become the Whills.

Posted: 2004-01-25 11:09pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Perhaps the Sharu were an abandoned outpost of the HA.

Posted: 2004-01-26 12:24am
by Guardsman Bass
Perhaps Corellia is Earth; the hyperspace aliens/whills who created the Corellia system just moved it there to have fun with the galactic future.

Posted: 2004-01-26 12:35am
by Rogue 9
Guardsman Bass wrote:Perhaps Corellia is Earth; the hyperspace aliens/whills who created the Corellia system just moved it there to have fun with the galactic future.
I doubt it. First off, Corellia's geography is quite a bit different from Earth's. Then there are shared species, but not enough to say that its the whole planet transferred. And after that, there's the little fact that if Corellia is Earth, then all our little scenarios with the Empire invading and destroying/conquering Earth in the Federation become null and void, as that would totally screw with the timeline. :wink: Speaking of the timeline, Star Wars events happened a long time ago. Says so in the crawler. :P So perhaps the hyperspace aliens can take humans and select other species with them across time and space, but transfer the entire planet? Besides, this obviously didn't happen as the time frame for Spanky's and IP's theory calls for it to happen in our present-day past, and we're still here. :P Ergo, Corellia =/= Earth.

Posted: 2004-01-26 12:41am
by Crayz9000
Rogue 9 wrote: Ergo, Corellia =/= Earth.
Maybe not. See, if Earth was under the influence of an Infinite Improbability Field while the HAs tried moving it...

oh bother, nobody's going to catch the reference.

Posted: 2004-01-26 12:42am
by Illuminatus Primus
You Douglas Adams fans think you're so smart...

Posted: 2004-01-26 12:42am
by Crayz9000
Illuminatus Primus wrote:You Douglas Adams fans think you're so smart...
God damnit, it's not the Douglas Adams reference!

Posted: 2004-01-26 12:44am
by Illuminatus Primus
Crayz9000 wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:You Douglas Adams fans think you're so smart...
God damnit, it's not the Douglas Adams reference!
Therefore its irrelevent!

:dings the triangle:

Posted: 2004-01-26 12:49am
by Crayz9000
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Therefore its irrelevent!

:dings the triangle:
*sics Darth Transcend on IP*

It was an ASVS STGOD reference, you ninny. Specifically, the ASVS Civil War.

Posted: 2004-01-26 12:57am
by DPDarkPrimus
Rogue 9 wrote:Speaking of the timeline, Star Wars events happened a long time ago. Says so in the crawler. :P
Of course, the time when the tale is being told is never specified. So it is just "a long time ago" from when the story is being told, which could be any time in the future, not just the past.

Posted: 2004-01-26 12:59am
by JME2
Crayz9000 wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:There are horses in the GFFA? :?
On Endor. See the Ewok movies...
*hiss* The Ewok movies must die - or at the very least, never be released on DVD!

Posted: 2004-01-26 01:02am
by Rogue 9
DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Speaking of the timeline, Star Wars events happened a long time ago. Says so in the crawler. :P
Of course, the time when the tale is being told is never specified. So it is just "a long time ago" from when the story is being told, which could be any time in the future, not just the past.
Well that's obvious. The story's obviously being told to us. :P

Posted: 2004-01-26 02:03am
by Ender
Prior to the flat out statement of "human" in TPM I always assumed that the Journey if the Wills story was what was being potrayed, and thus George just substituted humans in for the most prolific species in Wars. That is now shot to hell.

There is always the possibility that humans are the hyperspace aliens, ala the Anchients in Stargate.

Though it is completely impossible that they arose on Coruscant, its too different from earth, they would be moe different.

Posted: 2004-01-26 02:12am
by Spanky The Dolphin
That's just lame lazy writing, in my opinion.

Posted: 2004-01-26 02:16am
by JME2
Again, this will be another subplot and mystery running through my crossover fic. My answer is unique and fascinating in many ways. But I would be spoling it should I say any more...

Posted: 2004-01-26 09:43am
by Peregrin Toker
I seriously doubt that Coruscant would be the homeworld of humanity - IIRC, Coruscant is twice the size of earth and would thus have much more gravity. If we evolved on a gravity with significantly higher gravity, chances are we'd be much stronger in order to survive the high pressure.

Posted: 2004-01-26 01:07pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Ahem...
Coruscant is a terrestrial planet somewhat larger than Earth. It has 2.74 times Earth's mass, 1.39 times its diameter, and 1.42 times its surface gravity. This is well within the range of habitability for humans, although newcomers from Earth or other mild-gravity worlds would go through a period of uncomfortable physical adjustment.
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/orbs.html#coruscant

Additionally, its orbit is slightly too far away from it's star.

Nevermind that it pretty much can be interpreted from information in the EU that Coruscant is definately not the origin of Humans in the Galaxy. Corellia is the most likely in my opinion.

Posted: 2004-01-26 01:33pm
by Drooling Iguana
They're the long lost 14th colony of man.