Could KDY make a Eclipse Class Star Destoryer again?

Lord Jax · Post by **Lord Jax** » 2004-02-02 05:45pm

I was wondering if KDY could make a Eclipse clas star destroyer again since they made the 1st one and if they still have the plans.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-02 05:46pm

Since they did make two of them, I don't see why not.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-02-02 05:51pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Since they did make two of them, I don't see why not.

The second one was built at Byss.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-02 05:58pm

Still, consideting their sheer industrial capacity, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-02 05:58pm

This is KDY we're talking about. Especially since (contrary to popular belief) the Eclipse was not vastly larger than an SSD.

Say, that provokes a thought that deserves its own thread. *Goes for the New Topic button.*

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-02-02 06:00pm

Rogue 9 wrote:This is KDY we're talking about. Especially since (contrary to popular belief) the Eclipse was not vastly larger than an SSD.

Say, that provokes a thought that deserves its own thread. *Goes for the New Topic button.*

No, but as I recall, it massed more then twice as much.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-02-02 06:04pm

But who is more likely to have the plans to build an ESD, KDY or the shipyards at Byss (before they were destroyed)?

And KDY might be able to build an ESD, but just because they can build an SSD does not mean they can build an ESD. Superior General Delvardous was able to build the Night Hammer without KYD but I am sure most people would not think he could build an ESD. Zinij was able to build and SSD (I am not sure if he used KDY or not) but he might not be able to build an ESD.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-02-02 06:07pm

The only thing in thier way to build an ECS (Eclipse class ship) is th political will. And I think after the takeover through the NR, the political will to build a really fat battleship with a nasty superlaser is very low.

But if the NR would have wanted these ships, they would have been great against the Vong.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-02-02 06:09pm

Tribun wrote:The only thing in thier way to build an ECS (Eclipse class ship) is th political will. And I think after the takeover through the NR, the political will to build a really fat battleship with a nasty superlaser is very low.

But if the NR would have wanted these ships, they would have been great against the Vong.

Does this mean that KDY was under the control of the NR during Vong time?

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2004-02-02 06:10pm

There's no reason to belive the Eclipse was lost. They also started to build 4 Sovereigns which are basically Ecliipse light, and we never get to hear where they were built, only that they were destroyed within a year, most likely before completion. So they weren't built at Byss.

Kerneth · Post by **Kerneth** » 2004-02-02 06:12pm

Techno_Union wrote:
Tribun wrote:The only thing in thier way to build an ECS (Eclipse class ship) is th political will. And I think after the takeover through the NR, the political will to build a really fat battleship with a nasty superlaser is very low.

But if the NR would have wanted these ships, they would have been great against the Vong.
Does this mean that KDY was under the control of the NR during Vong time?

Yup. Alas, the New Republic has some odd qualms about deploying battleships with continent-devastating superweapons. Which is a shame because I bet one of those would be fun against a Vong Worldship.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-02-02 06:18pm

Yeahr, what if the NR wern't so stupid and had build numerous ECB (Eclipse class battleship) and ECC (Executor class command-ship), they would have been much more effective against the Vong.
Nothing better than a Eclipse slicing up a worldship while the Commandsip shoots countless nasty holes in it.

Wild Karrde · Post by **Wild Karrde** » 2004-02-02 08:54pm

Tribun wrote:Nothing better than a Eclipse slicing up a worldship while the Commandsip shoots countless nasty holes in it.

Of course there is...

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2004-02-02 09:32pm

KDY should have the plans and the capability, but they're a corporation. They won't build a massive and surely super expensive warship like the ESD unless somebody's going to buy it. Probably the only group that could ever pay that bill would be the NR and they wouldn't want one.

Lord Jax · Post by **Lord Jax** » 2004-02-03 06:25pm

ya i do believe too that the Eclipse can be build again at KDY

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-02-03 06:28pm

Lord Jax wrote:ya i do believe too that the Eclipse can be build again at KDY

Can you perhaps elaberate on your opinion?

Lord Jax · Post by **Lord Jax** » 2004-02-03 06:30pm

u know what i mean

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-02-03 06:32pm

Lord Jax wrote:u know what i mean

But what are your reasons for your opinion?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-03 07:28pm

Because KDY is an enormous starship construction corporation.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-02-03 07:49pm

If they can build an Executor, it's not that big a stretch to build an Eclipse. It's possible they don't have large enough slips to accomidate an Eclipse hull, but it wouldn't be a big problem for an organization like KDY to build them, either.

EDIT: The only thing they MIGHT not be able to do is the superlaser, if specialized facilities are needed for that. If that's the case, the cost of starting an Eclipse production line might be too high to be economical, because those facilities would have to be built as well. That wouldn't stop them from building a really huge battleship based on the Eclipse without the superlaser, but I was under the impression the only reason to build ships that size was to mount a superlaser, since the Executors and smaller ships can handle most any other job for which they're needed.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-02-03 10:04pm

Techno_Union wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Since they did make two of them, I don't see why not.
The second one was built at Byss.

HIMS Eclipse began construction at a special slip at KDY's primary yards in the Kuati System. Half-built, it was shipped to Byss where it was completed at her yards.

HIMS Eclipse II presumably was begun and completed at Byss' yards.

However, I personally regard HIMS Eclipse and HIMS Eclipse II as essentially different designs: HIMS Eclipse II may have been what the Eclipse-class production run of ships would've been, but its hullform/design is significantly different than that of the original HIMS Eclipse.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-02-04 08:25am

The numerous Executor class command ships produced by KDY was similar in size to an Ecilipse Star Destroyer. This shows that KDY has the capability to build massive warships.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-02-04 09:11am

I would say yes, provided that someone would buy it. I doubt the plans would have been lost with Byss, there would have to have been another copy somewhere.

Smiling Bandit · Post by **Smiling Bandit** » 2004-02-04 11:37am

Well, they're officially blown to smithereens, though, right? Wasn't that in one of thse Boba Fett books? And those start not long after RotJ. So its probably too late. Unless they got ressurected in some book.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-04 12:44pm

Smiling Bandit wrote:Well, they're officially blown to smithereens, though, right? Wasn't that in one of thse Boba Fett books? And those start not long after RotJ. So its probably too late. Unless they got ressurected in some book.

I believe they were fully active as far as before the New Jedi Order.