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DS gravity

Posted: 2004-02-12 06:00am
by wautd
Hi i'm new here to this site and altough im NO expert on the topic i like the SW universe. So go gentle on me :wink:

Perhaps its already been posted but I was wondering the following thing.
Whats the deal with the gravity at the DS? Is it the same as with a planet (so with the gravity point in the centre) or is it completely artificial?

Because in ROTJ for expample you see a shuttle enter the DS's equator and every1 is looking directly frontal at it (while you would expect, if the gravity point would be in the centre of the DS, the shuttle should enter the DS right above you).

I know, its hard for me to find the right words but hopefully some1 understands what i mean.

Posted: 2004-02-12 07:36am
by Sarevok
The Death Star uses artificial gravity generators. It is the same technology used to provide gravity onboard Imperial Star Destroyers.

Posted: 2004-02-12 09:00am
by BlkbrryTheGreat
Actually, considering the density of the armor of the Death Star they probably have to employ anti-gravity generators on outer portions of it.

Posted: 2004-02-12 09:07am
by Tribun
Well, a little surface gravity has to be there.
When we see the pictures of the turbolaser towers of the Death Star firing, we clearly see that some of the plasma discharge falls down before dissapearing.
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Posted: 2004-02-12 09:14am
by HRogge
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Actually, considering the density of the armor of the Death Star they probably have to employ anti-gravity generators on outer portions of it.
Unlikely, the DS is dense, but it's very small compared to a planet. It's gravity would be nearly zero at the surface ( maybe 0.1 g I think ).

Posted: 2004-02-12 10:46am
by Durandal
The Death Star has to use artificial gravity to maintain the same force all throughout the station.

Posted: 2004-02-12 11:01am
by Cal Wright
The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.

Posted: 2004-02-12 11:17am
by GySgt. Hartman
Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.
Yes, by its artificially generated gravity.

Posted: 2004-02-12 11:58am
by HRogge
Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.
So the novel is wrong...

The movie shows that the SSD is ROTATING and moving towards the DS... but gravity itself cannot rotate the ship, it would just pull it at the mass center. So it's the engine system that pushes the SSD into the DS.

Posted: 2004-02-12 01:29pm
by vakundok
Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.
My novelisation of RotJ does not, so please provide a quote. (My translation only states that the SSD bent and started to twirl toward the DS. It does not mention even a single word about gravity.)

Posted: 2004-02-12 04:40pm
by nightmare
HRogge wrote:
Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.
So the novel is wrong...

The movie shows that the SSD is ROTATING and moving towards the DS... but gravity itself cannot rotate the ship, it would just pull it at the mass center. So it's the engine system that pushes the SSD into the DS.
That, and it goes down much too fast for gravity to be the pull. Plus if you want to count the sound, the engines fire up and change pitch.

Posted: 2004-02-12 04:42pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
vakundok wrote:
Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.
My novelisation of RotJ does not, so please provide a quote. (My translation only states that the SSD bent and started to twirl toward the DS. It does not mention even a single word about gravity.)
Yours is not the original version, so it is not reliable.

Posted: 2004-02-12 04:44pm
by Stormbringer
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
vakundok wrote:
Cal Wright wrote:The ROTJ novel states that the SSD was pulled in by the DS2's gravity.
My novelisation of RotJ does not, so please provide a quote. (My translation only states that the SSD bent and started to twirl toward the DS. It does not mention even a single word about gravity.)
Yours is not the original version, so it is not reliable.
Why? The Special Editions aren't the orginals either.

Posted: 2004-02-12 04:49pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
His copy of the novelisation is a foreign translation.

Posted: 2004-02-12 06:14pm
by vakundok
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yours is not the original version, so it is not reliable.
Not as reliable as the original. Yes, that is why I asked for the quote from the original. Would you be so kind to provide that?

Posted: 2004-02-12 06:18pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Mine's 45 miles away.

Posted: 2004-02-12 06:33pm
by Black Admiral
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Mine's 45 miles away.
Fortunately mine's right next to me.
Return of the Jedi, page 497 wrote:The bridge was hit, with kaleidoscopic results. A rapid chain reaction got set off, from power station to power station along the middle third of the huge destroyer, producing a dazzling rainbow of explosions that buckled the ship at right angles and started it spinning like a pinwheel toward the Death Star.
There's the quote.

Posted: 2004-02-12 06:40pm
by HRogge
Black Admiral wrote:
Return of the Jedi, page 497 wrote:The bridge was hit, with kaleidoscopic results. A rapid chain reaction got set off, from power station to power station along the middle third of the huge destroyer, producing a dazzling rainbow of explosions that buckled the ship at right angles and started it spinning like a pinwheel toward the Death Star.
There's the quote.
So we have an engine malfunction because of a system wide cascade of explosion which throws the SSD into the DS.

So it was definitely NOT the gravity of the DS.

Posted: 2004-02-12 06:44pm
by Crazedwraith
Anyway is the gravity on the DS mean your always head up relativly or is it more like a planets. so people at the south pole would be upside down compared to people at the north tower

Posted: 2004-02-12 07:04pm
by vakundok
Thanks Black Admiral!
Nitpicking: page 497? It is on the 197th page of the hungarian translation. :D
HRogge wrote:So it was definitely NOT the gravity of the DS.
I asked only because it is so often mentioned (and said to be backed up by the novel). But this is off-topic.

Posted: 2004-02-12 07:09pm
by Black Admiral
vakundok wrote:Thanks Black Admiral!
Nitpicking: page 497? It is on the 197th page of the hungarian translation. :D
My copy's the 25th anniversary version, that has all three film novelisations merged.

Posted: 2004-02-12 07:13pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Crazedwraith wrote:Anyway is the gravity on the DS mean your always head up relativly or is it more like a planets. so people at the south pole would be upside down compared to people at the north tower
The gravity and outer layer of decks are orriented like a planetary surface. For the rest of the inside, gravity and decks are orriented like that of a normal ship.

Posted: 2004-02-12 07:14pm
by vakundok
I stand corrected. And enlightened. :)

Posted: 2004-02-13 06:38am
by wautd
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Crazedwraith wrote:Anyway is the gravity on the DS mean your always head up relativly or is it more like a planets. so people at the south pole would be upside down compared to people at the north tower
The gravity and outer layer of decks are orriented like a planetary surface. For the rest of the inside, gravity and decks are orriented like that of a normal ship.
Yes but in that case you wouldnt see the shuttle entering the DS frontal right?

Posted: 2004-02-13 06:42am
by Spanky The Dolphin
The Equatorial docking facilities are orriented the same as the interior.