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For a while we have had an apparent inconsistency with the placement and size of the UR(unless someone resolved it while I wasn't looking, in which case, my apologies). The maps in NJO indicate that it is a huge swathe of galaxy, but the map in AOtC seems to indicate that it couldn't be part of the galaxy proper. However, AOtC also showed two satellite galaxies.

Is it possible that the UR are a part of one of those satellite galaxies? Would this resolve any of the annoying problems that a lack of EU continuity have created?

The Unknown Regions are the Galactic Halo, basically.

Is there even any purpose to venture out into the Unknown Regions? Or is it merely for the sake of satisfying one's curiosity? Seems like most civilizations from the UR are below the current galatic level in everything. I suppose it would be akin to sending Columbus out into the Atlantic search of a pathway to Asia only to find the Americas.

But that's just me.

Yeah, but exactly how many credible 'menaces that would feeze your blood' can you see coming from the Galactic Halo? How do you cram 250 sectors worth of mapping into it, or explain the fact that it took Thrawn a decade or more to pacify a large chunk of it?

How do you explain that across somehow 25,000 years of hyperdrive travel they simply "missed" a 250-sector plus section of the disk?

Sectors have no set quantity of volume or content. It is a non sequitur to claim somehow they "must" contain a certain amount of stuff.

The Chiss Ascendancy's single sector contains, at most, several hundred thousand stars, only 28 colonies and the capital/homeworld, Csilla.

Compare that to the Chommell Sector's contents from AOTC ICS.

The smaller Galaxies are away from the Galactic halo. They can not be the unknown regions.

No they're not. The galactic halo is enormous.

Our galactic halo contains quite a few dwarf satellite galaxies, included but not limited to the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds.

Don'r forget the 10K LY diameter Sagittarius Dwarf.

I just want to know why a region very close to the capital world of the galaxy was never explored in great lenght while at the same time worlds across the galaxy were explored and settled before it, as well as entering the Old Republic.

And how come the stupid Vong didnt take over the smaller galaxies like the Rischi Maze?

Tychu wrote:I just want to know why a region very close to the capital world of the galaxy was never explored in great lenght while at the same time worlds across the galaxy were explored and settled before it, as well as entering the Old Republic.

Which one, specifically?

One of the main reasons for stuff like that is that the galactic community as a whole either finds the place of little to no interest, or it isn't commercially exploitable.

And how come the stupid Vong didnt take over the smaller galaxies like the Rischi Maze?

Might not have been along their invasion paths. They ignored a lot of systems that simply weren't part of their plans. Or maybe they just didn't know about them.

Tychu wrote:I just want to know why a region very close to the capital world of the galaxy was never explored in great lenght while at the same time worlds across the galaxy were explored and settled before it, as well as entering the Old Republic.

You're referring to the map that's in the NJO books and the Essential Chonology, aren't you? Don't. It's pure shit. Pure. And utter. Bullshit.

And how come the stupid Vong didnt take over the smaller galaxies like the Rischi Maze?

The Rishi Maze is a galaxy? I don't believe it is... I think it's probably just a star cluster.

As to the question, no, I really wouldn't be too surprised if the Unknown Regions were a satellite galaxy, considering that the galactic halo could be enormous. It's probably just not part of the galactic disk proper, which likely has been explored and extensively mapped.

consequences wrote:Yeah, but exactly how many credible 'menaces that would feeze your blood' can you see coming from the Galactic Halo? How do you cram 250 sectors worth of mapping into it, or explain the fact that it took Thrawn a decade or more to pacify a large chunk of it?

IIRC, the galactic halo is larger in total volume than the galactic disk. Even if the density is much lower, there's plenty of room out there for all kinds of nasties, and considering the vast distances involved, it could easily take a decade to bring it under control.

The Rishi Maze is a small dwarf galaxy, one of at least two that are known to exist surrounding the Galaxy. Kamino is described as being "south of the Rishi Maze, (but also being actually part of it, so it can probably be assumed that it's one of the outer systems; and since "south" could correspond with "down," Kamino could be considered to be on the "bottom side" of the Rishi Maze).

Kamino is 70K LYs away from the Core; 10K LY beyond what is regarded as the "border" of the Galaxy (which is 120K LY in diameter).

consequences wrote:The maps in NJO indicate that it is a huge swathe of galaxy

Assuming that the Unknown Region is a rectangle (using it's longest length and width), it makes up less than 14% of the galaxy in apparent surface area (from a top-down 2D perspective). The problem is that we don't know if the UR extends out from the middle of the "height" axis all the way to both top and bottom, or if it's just a thin layer that looks big from the "top".

Again, the NJO map is nothing but garbage and should be entirely ignored.

At what point did the NJO galaxy map contradict any of the movies?

Elheru Aran wrote:The Rishi Maze is a galaxy? I don't believe it is... I think it's probably just a star cluster.

Inside the Worlds of Attack of the Clones identifies the Rishi Maze as a satellite galaxy explicitly.

Lord Pounder wrote:At what point did the NJO galaxy map contradict any of the movies?

The inane NJO/Essential Chronology map contradicts the following: Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones; The Last Command; circumstancially Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope; The Sith War.

And it is overridden by the Inside the Worlds books.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The Rishi Maze is a small dwarf galaxy, one of at least two that are known to exist surrounding the Galaxy. Kamino is described as being "south of the Rishi Maze, (but also being actually part of it, so it can probably be assumed that it's one of the outer systems; and since "south" could correspond with "down," Kamino could be considered to be on the "bottom side" of the Rishi Maze).

Kamino is 70K LYs away from the Core; 10K LY beyond what is regarded as the "border" of the Galaxy (which is 120K LY in diameter).

South is a valid descriptor; the galaxy does have an axis of rotation, and, relative to Coruscant, one side would be "north" and another "south."

By this scale, the Rishi Maze must be located north of the plane of the galactic disk (probably in excess of a galactic diameter to avoid tidal stresses on the galaxy) and directly south of the Maze would be Kamino.

Nicely, since this system is ten thousand light-years beyond the rim of the galactic disk, it quite convienently annhiliates the stupid shit about "hyperspace distrubances" driveled out by the damaged minds of EU authors to excuse the fact that Zahn didn't think "My Rectum" was a sufficient descriptor and backstory for a private fictional playground inside Star Wars from which he could grasp contrived threats as well as maintain a monopoly on the subtle references in his other works.