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Kaminoans and the Force

Posted: 2002-10-18 08:07am
by Peregrin Toker
Something I wondered about last night was whether Kamino could have been deleted from the archives if there were any Kaminoan Jedi Knights.

Obviously, if there were any Kaminoan jedi, they would probably have protested if they found out that their homeworld had been deleted from the archives!!

However, as the Force is something that is in all creatures, then how could the Kaminoans not have as much force-using capacity as humans??

Another approach is that Kaminoans do have force capacities, but Kaminoan force-users haven't been obliged to join the Jedi Order as Kamino wasn't part of the Old Republic.

A third theory is that Sifo-Dyas was a Kaminoan, and the only one to become a Jedi, and that he took to his home planet and remained there.
(however, Sifo-Dyas doesn't sound very Kaminoan)

Comments??

Posted: 2002-10-18 08:17am
by Smiling Bandit
1) Given the populace-to-Jedi ratio, its entirely possible there have never been any Kaminoan Jedi. ANd there certainly may not be any now.

2) If the Kaminoans do not test for it, they wouldn't even know whether or not an individual has force potential.

3) Sifo-Dyas sounds like a Coruscant name to me.

4) Even if there were Kaminoan Jedi, they probably would not need to check the main archive if they wanted to get home, assuming they even went to Kamino. How many times do you check maps for your hometown?

Posted: 2002-10-18 08:44am
by Peregrin Toker
Smiling Bandit wrote:1) Given the populace-to-Jedi ratio, its entirely possible there have never been any Kaminoan Jedi. ANd there certainly may not be any now.

2) If the Kaminoans do not test for it, they wouldn't even know whether or not an individual has force potential.

3) Sifo-Dyas sounds like a Coruscant name to me.

4) Even if there were Kaminoan Jedi, they probably would not need to check the main archive if they wanted to get home, assuming they even went to Kamino. How many times do you check maps for your hometown?
1. Good argument. After all, there's only 10,000 Jedi in the galaxy, and there are far more species than than that - which means that there must be species who aren't represented in the Jedi Order - and the lanky denizens of Kamino could be one of them.

2. I recall reading (perhaps in the AOTC novelization) that the Kaminoans originally considered a Jedi for template for the clone army, so they must know of Force-related phenomena and the jedi.

3. Agree with you there.

4. Kamino appears to be located in a backwater area in the galaxy, and it could be hard to find as the galaxy map covers a far bigger area than a map over towns.

Posted: 2002-10-18 10:19am
by Spartan
Given the low population density of the planet and its remotenes, its doubtful that there were an Kaminoan Jedi, at least not in the prequal era.

Posted: 2002-10-18 02:18pm
by spongyblue
Sifo-Dyas the Jedi Council member with the tall skinny head? He was in the Zam Wessel comic book and he states his species and it wasnt Kamino. I cant remember the name, but he says that he was more adept to psy powers than Mace Windu(they were having a conversation) due to his species origin.

Posted: 2002-10-18 03:44pm
by Spartan
spongyblue wrote:
Sifo-Dyas the Jedi Council member with the tall skinny head? He was in the Zam Wessel comic book and he states his species and it wasnt Kamino. I cant remember the name, but he says that he was more adept to psy powers than Mace Windu(they were having a conversation) due to his species origin.
Sorry dude, that was Jedi Master Yarael Poof. An Invertebrate native of Quermia, he is legendary for his skills in mind effects. In battle, his conjurings have convinced the most violent of enemies to surrender. He usually hides his other 2 arms beneath his cloak to surprise his adversaries in battle. He dies saving Coruscant with the help of Zam Wesell, and Jango Fett.

I have that comic, I thought he was one of the cooler Jedi we've seen, cool design and his sense of humor was perfect. It to bad they killed him off so quickly. Really, one would hope that a kriffing Jedi Master, could handle a a hand full of thugs with blasters and knives. I mean really he uses the uber-illusion power to scare off some street punks, but not on the bad guys; talk about arrogant.

Posted: 2002-10-19 01:36am
by spongyblue
Yeah your right. I guess i should buy comics again intead of just standing there reading them. I havent bought a comic book in abot 3 years.

Posted: 2002-10-19 06:17am
by Peregrin Toker
Spartan wrote: Sorry dude, that was Jedi Master Yarael Poof. An Invertebrate native of Quermia, he is legendary for his skills in mind effects. In battle, his conjurings have convinced the most violent of enemies to surrender. He usually hides his other 2 arms beneath his cloak to surprise his adversaries in battle. He dies saving Coruscant with the help of Zam Wesell, and Jango Fett.
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I know well that Yarael Poof isn't kaminoan. (for a start, Kaminoans only have 2 arms, and his head shape, complexion and eyes are totally wrong)

Posted: 2002-10-20 05:39pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
Where did the 10,000 number come from? That seems a bit low to me. Is itr all the Jedi Masters, or all the Jedi Knights and Padawans too?

As for Kamino being erased from the archives, perhaps they didn't know it was erased. However, I'm going with no Kaminoan Jedi, or, if there were any, they were killed in an % ".

Posted: 2002-10-21 02:02pm
by Slartibartfast
The librarian said: if it's not in the database, it doesn't exist. So when they erased the planet they erased all Kaminoan Jedi, DUH!