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Quick Star Wars Infinities Question

Posted: 2004-03-17 08:46pm
by russellb6666
Having just finished Star Wars Infinities: A New Hope I can't help but wonder about something at the end of the book, when the Death Star crashes into Coruscant shouldn't that have destroyed the planet? or at least taken a really big chunk out of it? Its supposted to be the size of a moon right? Now im no expert at figuring this stuff out but shouldn't have done more damage than it did??

Posted: 2004-03-17 08:57pm
by Phantasee
The death star crashed into coruscant??? What is this Star Wars Infinities....? :oops:

Posted: 2004-03-17 09:10pm
by Crown
Phantasee wrote:The death star crashed into coruscant??? What is this Star Wars Infinities....? :oops:
Something which has no place in the canon heirarchy.

Posted: 2004-03-17 10:13pm
by russellb6666
Phantasee wrote:The death star crashed into coruscant??? What is this Star Wars Infinities....? :oops:
It's kinda like a "what if" type story in which something important that happend in the films get borked and now everybody has to deal w/ the new things that happend

Posted: 2004-03-17 10:48pm
by Elheru Aran
Does it show the aftermath on Coruscant afterwards? Or does it just cut to a generic "here-are-the-heroes, let's-celebrate" scene? I haven't read that particular comic in awhile... I don't remember that it showed what was left of Coruscant.

Because the DS was pretty dense and very heavy, it probably should've at least chunked the planet. After all, asteroids about 6k in diameter can at least cause ecological catastrophe; the DS was >160 miles diameter, and spherical at that (greatest volume and probably mass of any geometric shape). It probably wouldn't have shattered the planet like one of its shots would've (one wonders why Yoda didn't just zat the planet...), but it would've certainly caused gigantic earthquakes with its impact; earthquakes sufficient to destroy much of Coruscant. That impact itself would probably have struck the planet powerfully enough to cause planet-wide fracturing, if not outright chunking.

Posted: 2004-03-17 10:59pm
by consequences
It was a generic triumphant ceremony thing at the end, it didn't say it was on Coruscant.

Posted: 2004-03-17 11:04pm
by Lord of the Farce
I've only glanced through it in a Borders store, but IIRC the Death Star wasn't very far from the "surface" of Coruscant to begin with, so that could factor in. Also, the multi-kilometers tall buildings beneath the Death Star are not one big solid block, so they might have cushioned the fall with their collapse... *shrug*

Posted: 2004-03-17 11:05pm
by phongn
consequences wrote:It was a generic triumphant ceremony thing at the end, it didn't say it was on Coruscant.
Was it Chandrilla at the end? I can't recall anymore.

Posted: 2004-03-17 11:40pm
by russellb6666
phongn wrote:
consequences wrote:It was a generic triumphant ceremony thing at the end, it didn't say it was on Coruscant.
Was it Chandrilla at the end? I can't recall anymore.
It doesn't say what planet its on it just has a generic happy ending w/ Leia becomeing Chancellor of the New Republic and Luke seeing yoda, obi-wan, and anakin's ghosts like at the end of ROTJ

Posted: 2004-03-18 06:01am
by Lord of the Farce
Went to Borders this evening, and I seemed to be mistaken about the Death Star starting close to the surface (it started in space, but in one frame it was just above the horizon of Coruscant). And from the look of the picture, it looked like everything around the Death Star's crash site and a huge amount of the surrounding area was in the process of being annihilated.

Posted: 2004-03-18 09:29am
by Tribun
I want a picture of that! :shock:

Posted: 2004-03-18 09:38am
by wautd
Elheru Aran wrote:and spherical at that (greatest volume and probably mass of any geometric shape).
nitpick: that would be with a cube. Spere has greatest relative surface but the least volume

Posted: 2004-03-18 11:08am
by Wild Karrde
Tribun wrote:I want a picture of that! :shock:
Big spoiler 1.

Big spoiler 2.

:P 8)

Posted: 2004-03-18 01:02pm
by Shroom Man 777
Um....cool!

Posted: 2004-03-18 02:25pm
by consequences
There's also frames with dozens of Executor class ships in view.

Posted: 2004-03-18 02:29pm
by Tsyroc
Have they put out the RotJ Infinites book yet?

It has been awhile since the Empire one was released in tpb form.

Posted: 2004-03-18 05:18pm
by Techno_Union
So the Rebel's idea of trying to free tha galaxy is sending the Death Star to crash into Coruscant killing billions mabye even trillions of people...interesting.

Good guys my ass. :roll:

Posted: 2004-03-18 06:04pm
by Illuminatus Primus
You can't really see how much damage it caused; though I don't think it'd destroy the planet.

It'd definitely sterilize it; everyone on Coruscant died.

Posted: 2004-03-18 06:31pm
by Bob the Gunslinger
Elheru Aran wrote:
and spherical at that (greatest volume and probably mass of any geometric shape).


nitpick: that would be with a cube. Spere has greatest relative surface but the least volume
Actually, a sphere has the greatest volume to surface area ratio of any solid. (4/3)piR^3 / 4piR^2 or (1/3)R
A cube is S^3 / 6S^2 or (1/6)S where S is a side. If they have the same volume, then (using some quick algebra) S=[(4pi/3)^(1/3)]R, which is less than 2R since (4pi/3) < 8
Thus, (1/3)R = (1/6)2R > (1/6)[(4pi/3)^(1/3)]R
And your sphere has less surface area than a cube of equal volume.

So for the same volume, the imperials use far less durasteel or plasteel or whatever it's called constructing a Death Star sphere as opposed to a cube. I. E., The Death Star is more voluminous than a cube made from the same amount of hull plating materials, and can thus contain more air, troops, waste and other heavy objects that shouldn't fall onto populous city-worlds.

Posted: 2004-03-18 06:41pm
by phongn
Techno_Union wrote:So the Rebel's idea of trying to free tha galaxy is sending the Death Star to crash into Coruscant killing billions mabye even trillions of people...interesting.
No, that appeared to be Yoda's idea. The remaining Rebels (read: Han, Luke & Co.) just wanted to spring Leia out.

Posted: 2004-03-18 06:45pm
by Techno_Union
Trying to be a smart ass and messed up in the process, dang :( . Very well then, Yoda's idea of revenge or whatever is crashing the Death Star into Coruscant killing billions if not trillions of people.

Posted: 2004-03-18 08:54pm
by phongn
Techno_Union wrote:Trying to be a smart ass and messed up in the process, dang :( . Very well then, Yoda's idea of revenge or whatever is crashing the Death Star into Coruscant killing billions if not trillions of people.
Yes, that was bizarre. I can't see Master Yoda doing such an act.

Posted: 2004-03-18 08:57pm
by Illuminatus Primus
It is Stradley's SW DHC.

Posted: 2004-03-20 08:50am
by Kurgan
Yeah, I assumed at first that Infinities were supposed to have been feasible (what COULD have happened if X or Y happened instead of what actually did in the movies, etc).

But yeah, the Death Star thing was completely silly. Yoda mind tricks everyone on the Death Star and then crashes it into Palpy's apartment on Coruscant (killing billions?!! Thanks suicide bomber green dude! Way to take out one guy!)

The other scene that made me cringe was the one where the DS 1 suddenly had off axis firing abilities and wiped out an entire fleet of ISD's using the super laser (one ship at a time apparently).

Sigh...



Of course, then again, I wonder how the Death Star was able to get through all the shields and stuff of the planet? Did Yoda have the gunners mind tricked so they fired a lower power shot to take out the planetary shield? Or was the craft simply able to "push it's way through"?

Then again, with the million+ people Yoda was already mind tricking I guess he could mind trick the shield security people on the planet.

Bah, shouldn't even bother, the whole thing was so ridiculous.

Posted: 2004-03-20 12:19pm
by Techno_Union
I was dissapointed with the end. I thought it was supposed to be where the Empire finally won and it turnned out to be just another way for the Empire to lose. *sigh* I hope Return of the Jedi will be better.