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Question about Earth

Posted: 2004-05-03 11:29pm
by BoyRocketeer
Hello, is the planet Earth in SW universe? If not, where did the humans come from? I don't remember Earth getting mentioned in the movies.

Posted: 2004-05-03 11:49pm
by Icehawk
The closest thing relating to earth would be in the novel "Heir to the Empire" by Timothy Zahn. In it Luke briefly talks to C-3P0 about the "hot chocolate" he is drinking and that it has a "shady origin".

But then again, Star Wars supposedly takes place "A long Time Ago, In a Galaxy Far Far Away" so that kind of knocks the idea of Earth having anything to do with Star Wars.

One can only guess where humans in Star Wars came from. Popular opinion amoung fans seems to think it could have been either Corellia or Coruscant.

Posted: 2004-05-03 11:51pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
That's because the SW Galaxy is very very far away from our own and in the past.

It's commonly accepted that SW humans also originated from Earth, having been transplanted somehow (I and another member share a theory regarding such, but it's rather complicated).

Posted: 2004-05-04 12:07am
by Icehawk
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:That's because the SW Galaxy is very very far away from our own and in the past.

It's commonly accepted that SW humans also originated from Earth, having been transplanted somehow (I and another member share a theory regarding such, but it's rather complicated).
Interesting, Ive never heard anything about that, is their a basic explanation of it?

Posted: 2004-05-04 12:12am
by Illuminatus Primus
I wouldn't go so far as to say it is "commonly accepted," but its something that occurred to Spanky and I independently when considering a strict SoD interpretation of the filmic canon, and the chronological problems involved.

Posted: 2004-05-04 12:13am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Basically, the Hyperspace Aliens did it.

You can find it if you run a search though. I've repeated it easily about a dozen times since the begining of the board.

Posted: 2004-05-04 12:23am
by Icehawk
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Basically, the Hyperspace Aliens did it.

You can find it if you run a search though. I've repeated it easily about a dozen times since the begining of the board.
Interesting, though I don't recall hearing or reading anything about "hyperspace aliens" in SW. Or is it just an assumption that hyperspace lifeforms exist and that they did it?.

Posted: 2004-05-04 12:33am
by Jordie
The Hyperspace Aliens = the people who made the Corellia system

Posted: 2004-05-04 12:33am
by Illuminatus Primus
The "hyperspace aliens" are the colloquial term for the civilization which constructed the Corellian System planetary repulsors, the Centerpoint Station, the entire Corellian planetary system itself, and possibly the Maw Black Hole Cluster.

Posted: 2004-05-04 12:50am
by Icehawk
Ah ok, I have only read about 3 EU novels so I never even new anything about the Corellia system having "planetary repulsors" or that it was a manufactured system. :shock:

Lol, I really need to read up on my star wars lore more often.

Posted: 2004-05-04 01:07am
by BoyRocketeer
dang, I know crap about SW universe.

Posted: 2004-05-04 01:23am
by Icehawk
BoyRocketeer wrote:dang, I know crap about SW universe.
Best thing to do would be to do some reading of the Official Star Wars Databank. The Universe is HUGE with a ton of history and characters in it.

Posted: 2004-05-04 02:26am
by BoyRocketeer
does playing Jedi Knight count?

Posted: 2004-05-04 07:11am
by Tsyroc
I always thought the first humans in the Star Wars Galaxy were time travelers from the Federation. :wink:

Posted: 2004-05-04 09:51am
by Darksider
Tsyroc wrote:I always thought the first humans in the Star Wars Galaxy were time travelers from the Federation. :wink:

::::Thwaps Tysroc on the head:::::

No matter how entertaining it is, "Conquest" Is not canon......

Posted: 2004-05-04 10:17am
by hvb
Darksider wrote:
Tsyroc wrote:I always thought the first humans in the Star Wars Galaxy were time travelers from the Federation. :wink:
::::Thwaps Tysroc on the head:::::

No matter how entertaining it is, "Conquest" Is not canon......
Nor is the EU stuff Canon.

The point should be that Conquest is not Official.

Posted: 2004-05-04 09:21pm
by YT300000
Earth does exist in SW- as an easter egg in Jedi Outcast.

On the level where you are on the Doomgiver, turn on noclip, and fly out through the windows, through the hyperspace (it's actually a cone with moving hyperspace texturing on it). Floating in space, is Earth, and it looks like it's being hit by a meteorite (65 million years ago, perhaps?).

Posted: 2004-05-05 01:11pm
by General Zod
hvb wrote:
Darksider wrote:
Tsyroc wrote:I always thought the first humans in the Star Wars Galaxy were time travelers from the Federation. :wink:
::::Thwaps Tysroc on the head:::::

No matter how entertaining it is, "Conquest" Is not canon......
Nor is the EU stuff Canon.

The point should be that Conquest is not Official.
ahem. official EU material IS indeed canon, where it does not contradict the movies. *smack*

Posted: 2004-05-05 02:39pm
by Joe
It's commonly accepted that SW humans also originated from Earth, having been transplanted somehow (I and another member share a theory regarding such, but it's rather complicated).
Probably some form of time travel.

Posted: 2004-05-05 03:22pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Exactly.

Posted: 2004-05-05 06:11pm
by BoyRocketeer
Joe wrote:
It's commonly accepted that SW humans also originated from Earth, having been transplanted somehow (I and another member share a theory regarding such, but it's rather complicated).
Probably some form of time travel.
So is it the humans travel back in time to SW universe? Or into the future?

Posted: 2004-05-05 06:21pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Into the past, obviously, considering the precredit title card.

Specifically IP and my theory involve the Hyperspace Aliens traveling across the universe and forward in time to our past, where they pick some of us up and travel back into the distant past of the SW Galaxy.

Posted: 2004-05-05 06:23pm
by BoyRocketeer
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Into the past, obviously, considering the precredit title card.

Specifically IP and my theory involve the Hyperspace Aliens traveling across the universe and into their future to our past, where they pick us up and travel back from where and when they came from (the SW Galaxy's distant past).
I always thought the movie title card was "written" in the very very far future, and it's telling the story in the past, but it's in "our" future.

Kinda like Mel Gibson's Mad Max series. It takes in the future, but the story is told as a past event by an old man who recounts the feats of Mad Max.

Posted: 2004-05-05 06:29pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
There is no such context presented in the films or in any of the literature. The closest it ever got to that was back when Lucas was writing the earliest drafts and outlines for the script in the mid 70s, with the story taking place in the 33rd Century. But he later dropped all of that and decided on the "Once upon a time in a far away land" approach.

To reitterate: Star Wars takes place in the distant past in another part of the Universe. This is accepted.

Posted: 2004-05-05 06:32pm
by BoyRocketeer
Actually, now I remember the old man from Mad Max was actually the feral kid in the Road Warrior.

So, how did the sw technology become so advanced so long ago? Or is that really not the point.