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Best 'Insane pilot' Chase

Posted: 2004-07-20 10:56pm
by Stofsk
Empire Strikes Back: The Millenium Falcon being chased by ISDs and TIES, a comic moment as Han tries to repair the hyperdrive, then coming back to dodge rocks and bigger rocks and then doing a cool canyon thing, finally landing in a cave to hide.

Pros: Harrison Ford saying the fantastic line: "Never tell me the odds!" The MF twisting vertically to 'squeese' through a canyon gap, with the last two TIEs unable to adapt in time.

Cons: The TIEs die rather quickly. Also the asteroid field seems too uncommon to be a 'normal' asteroid field, while it's origins can only be theroised at (two planets that recently collided?).

Attack of the Clones: Obi-wan chasing Jango Fett through a planetary ring system. We see missiles, repeating blasters, and seizmic charges do fantastic damage. We also go through an asteroid cave. Pros: Seeing a seizmic charge rip through space. Plus the fact the 'asteroid field' was actually a planetary ring system, which was also made obvious, made it more 'believable' for me.

Cons: The Delta-7 doesn't seem to have any chaff/flare/countermeasures against ship-to-ship missiles. Nor does it have an internal hyperdrive. Dumb, is all I can say. Also the missile chase was bizarre. It seemed to catch up quick, then stop accelerating and just stay on Obi-wan's tail. Again, stupid.

And Bratty Boba Fett speak. "Go get him, dada! Fire!" Jango's lines weren't pretty impressive either. "We'll just have to finish him off, son." No shit, really? And here I thought you were gonna let him get away... :roll:

Return of the Jedi: ROTJ DS2 bomb run. Not really 'asteroids' but just as crazy, just as suicidal, and just as cool.

Pros: I love X-wings. And Wedge help killing the second Death Star had a cathartic moment to it (an original survivor and veteran going in again). The Millenium Falcon almost not making it out. Strange pro, but I thought "If you're going to die, then why not take a couple million bad guys and contract workers with you?"

Plus, the desperation. All three had the desperation, but here it was more epic and proactive. Think about it: in ESB, Han et al just wanted to escape. In AOTC Obi-wan did the same thing. In ROTJ the rebel pilots were going in to kill the Emperor and try to win the war. It's a little more epic.

Cons: Um, the insanity. Unless the pilots had a separate briefing session we weren't privy to, and if those Bothans got a technical readout of the new battlestation, I want to know how the fuck were they expecting to navigate through the innards of the Death Star?

Then there's the chickenshit approach: all three are fine, Stofsk's a moron LOL. Well, if this thread has been done before then I beseech a friendly neighbourhood moderator to nuke this thread.

Posted: 2004-07-20 11:03pm
by JME2
ESB hands down; great scene and one of my favorite from the 'second' film.

Posted: 2004-07-20 11:38pm
by Spice Runner
The ESB chase was the best. Solo took a gamble by going into the asteroid field and won.

Posted: 2004-07-20 11:51pm
by Ghost Rider
RoTJ.

Created by far the nuttinest game experience from a movie.

Though nice of the Empire to have such open ended duct work.

Posted: 2004-07-20 11:56pm
by Stofsk
For myself I voted ROTJ, although I really liked all three. ROTJ just had an epic end to an epic saga. And the good guys were the ones to finally take the offensive.

Posted: 2004-07-21 12:16am
by Darth Yoshi
ESB.

"You're not going into the asteroid field?"
"They'd be crazy to follow us, wouldn't they?"

Posted: 2004-07-21 02:13am
by Darth Raptor
I'm a little biased, as I've never seen TESB or RotJ in the theaters. On the big screen, the Obi-Wan/Jango chase is damned impressive. The rapid fire laser cannons already had me out of my seat, and then they threw in the seismic charges for orgasmic overkill.

Oh, and the Rebel pilots knew where they were going because they locked onto the reactor's power signiture and just followed the necessary corridors. Despite appearances, the corridors were very linear, it's not as if they had real freedom to go wherever.

Posted: 2004-07-21 02:42am
by Marksist
I took the "Chickenshit" option. :cry:

I couldn't decide which one I liked the best, as all three are some of my favorite scenes from each respective movie. Maybe the ROTJ scene edges them out for me. But, I dunno, they are all great, so I guess I'm the filthy Swede :lol:

Posted: 2004-07-21 03:21am
by Raptor 597
Return of the Jedi seemed to have much more scope, and my favorite part is when the shield go down and they race into the Death Star.

Posted: 2004-07-21 03:31am
by Captain Cyran
ESB wins it for me. I mean, it's a 60+ meter long ship making turns the TIE's are having trouble keeping up with. Dodging asteroids with sudden turns, trying to shake TIE fighters. Not to mention some great one liners.

RotJ, great crazy stunt there with barely any wiggle room for error, even taking of the sensor dish. But it was pretty much a straight dive, though there are kudos for the escaping the blast.

AotC, the least of the three, not as impressive as the Falcon, I mean, it's a fighter, it's having a hulking ship like Slave I keep up with it. It also wasn't as dramatic. Solo was running from the Empire, capture, and certain death after long torture. Calrissian is destroying the Death Star. Obi Wan is just running from some patrol ship and doing a bad job of it.

Posted: 2004-07-21 04:38am
by darthdavid
I was torn but chose ROTJ. It's just so damn cool. I hope I get to see the OT in a theatre some day as that would be totally kickass.

Posted: 2004-07-21 04:41am
by Howedar
ROTJ, cause I don't buy the Falcon pulling stuff off that TIEs can't.

Posted: 2004-07-21 05:31am
by Gandalf
RoTJ, just so cool.

And I love the shot of the flame shooting out of the DS2, then the Falcon coming out through it.

Posted: 2004-07-21 05:57am
by Zac Naloen
Howedar wrote:ROTJ, cause I don't buy the Falcon pulling stuff off that TIEs can't.
isn't that a testament to hans skill?

ROTJ, just seemed more fulfilling when its finished.

Posted: 2004-07-21 06:29am
by Galvatron
Howedar wrote:ROTJ, cause I don't buy the Falcon pulling stuff off that TIEs can't.
I didn't really perceive it as the Falcon outperforming the TIEs so much as Han out-piloting the Imperial fighterjocks.

Posted: 2004-07-21 10:57am
by Crazedwraith
RotJ, The ESB one is to weird, a freighter out doing Fighters? Even if Solo is much better pilots. It's Like an air-line pilot out flying a fightercraft.

Posted: 2004-07-21 11:14am
by wautd
I voted aotc but after having more tought it should have been ROTJ

Posted: 2004-07-21 01:13pm
by Hardy
Crazedwraith wrote:RotJ, The ESB one is to weird, a freighter out doing Fighters? Even if Solo is much better pilots. It's Like an air-line pilot out flying a fightercraft.
I'd say the the Falcon was more of a Learjet.

Posted: 2004-07-21 02:02pm
by Lord Pounder
RotJ Death Star run. It had 2 of my favourite OT characters involved. Wedge Antillies and Lando Calrisian. It was so intense and nail bitting the 1st time i saw it. I knew that main character like Hand and Leia can't die so ESB was a foregone conclusion, however Lando and Wedge where fringe characters and i swore that the Falcon was fryed. They whole "i get the feeling like i won't see her again" comment by Han reinforced this.

Posted: 2004-07-21 03:23pm
by CaptainChewbacca
I'm voting for ESB, but the absolute BEST "crazy pilot" stuff is the speeder-bikes on Endor, both the Ewok pilot and Luke jumping from one bike to another.

Posted: 2004-07-21 03:57pm
by consequences
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets with the speederbike-I mean broomstick chase, yeah. :)

Seriously, RotJ, just because you knew that Lando was thinking "Oh Shit, Oh Shit, We're gonna Die", not because he expected the TIEs to shoot him down, but because he knew that Han would kill him for getting the Falcon banged up.

Posted: 2004-07-21 04:23pm
by RadiO
RotJ... Because now that I think about it, it's one of the few times in a movie that you see an elite group of people who have a vital mission, who know exactly what they're doing and they actually just do their job in a believable manner. No hystrionics, no showboating, no bullshit. But professionalism.
Remember the point where Lando and Wedge reach the reactor chamber - and they just coolly fire their missiles at the reactor pylons and immediately start making their escape from the blast wave? Damn, that was cool. :)

Posted: 2004-07-21 04:32pm
by President Sharky
Nothing beats the absolute coolness of ROTJ's Death Star run. I absolutely love the explosion effects and the tension that has you at the edge of your seat right until Lando blasts out and yells "yeeha!"

Posted: 2004-07-21 05:03pm
by Galvatron
RadiO wrote:RotJ... Because now that I think about it, it's one of the few times in a movie that you see an elite group of people who have a vital mission, who know exactly what they're doing and they actually just do their job in a believable manner. No hystrionics, no showboating, no bullshit. But professionalism.
One of my favorite aspects of that whole sequence was that neither Wedge or Lando were Force-sensitive. They were just ordinary hotshot pilots and didn't have to "use the Force" to get the job done.

Posted: 2004-07-21 06:13pm
by Knife
I voted for ESB. The combination of the chase, the comical sniping between characters in stress, and the musical score made it....oh.....just beautiful chunk of film.

I never thought the Falcon was out preforming the Ties, rather that Han was a hot shot pilot and closing in to engage is alot harder on the concentration than a flat out run for freedom. The Tie pilots had to avoid the asteroids AND keep on the Falcons tail. The Falcon just had to dodge the asteroids and could go pretty much any direction she needed/ or could go while the Ties had to dodge and go in the direction of the Falcon.

RotJ, was a close second, I really like Wedge as a character. :wink: The whole RotJ space battle was probably the best Sci Fi battle ever. :D