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Who do you think kills Mace Windu?
Posted: 2004-08-05 02:12pm
by Rogue 9
NO SPOILERS!
Now then, with that out of the way: In the spirit of the poll on who we think will kill Darth Tyranus, who do you think will kill Mace Windu? I think I've covered anyone remotely likely that I know of, and at least one unlikely one as well. (I was going to add "Industrial accident" as an option, but ran out of options and wanted to add "Other."
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Posted: 2004-08-05 02:28pm
by Galvatron
Having anyone but Vader do it would be inapprorpriate since the whole story is basically about his fall and redemption. Windu's death at Vader's hands will not only demonstrate how uber powerful he is, but will also effectively symbolize the Jedi purge without actually showing us Vader hunt down the rest of them.
Posted: 2004-08-05 02:49pm
by JediMaster415
I think Mace WIndu will be Vader's first Jedi kill to show that he will bring about their downfall since Mace is supposed to be, perhaps, the best warrior in the Jedi Order at the time.
Posted: 2004-08-05 03:07pm
by Rogue 9
Just to point out: While I think it would be awesome as all hell to have Boba Fett get his revenge with comprehension dawning in Windu's eyes right before he's killed, its not likely given that Boba will be in his mid teens at the oldest at the time of RotS, I believe.
Posted: 2004-08-05 03:20pm
by Galvatron
Rogue 9 wrote:Just to point out: While I think it would be awesome as all hell to have Boba Fett get his revenge with comprehension dawning in Windu's eyes right before he's killed, its not likely given that Boba will be in his mid teens at the oldest at the time of RotS, I believe.
We don't know how long the Jedi purge actually takes. For all we know, Vader could have been busily hunting down Jedi in the years following ROTS and leading up to ANH. During that time, I can imagine Fett working for the Empire, helping Vader find elusive Jedi rebels or even going solo and dragging them in for a hefty bounty (assuming he doesn't simply disintegrate them on sight). In fact, their dialogue in TESB alludes to a prior working relationship such as this.
Posted: 2004-08-05 03:24pm
by Rogue 9
I know, but unless the movie covers a span of years and the entire Jedi purge, Fett won't be old enough or experienced enough to be plausibly hunting and killing Windu, since he basically has to die in the movie. (I do not deny that Fett and Vader had a possibly longstanding business relationship by the time of TESB, but I doubt that it started when Fett was 15.)
Posted: 2004-08-05 03:30pm
by Galvatron
While I can imagine Fett earning bounties at the age of 15, I have no desire to see him in ROTS or watch him kill Windu when Vader should be the one to do the deed.
If anything, denying Fett the kill would be better. It would only fuel his neverending desire for revenge against the Jedi, like a darker version of Batman.
Posted: 2004-08-05 04:00pm
by Rogue 9
I can see Fett earning bounties at 15, but I can't see him earning a bounty on Mace Windu at 15. Think about who we're discussing here. An advanced padawan, perhaps one of the lesser Knights, maybe. But Master Windu? That'd be a cold day in hell...
Posted: 2004-08-05 05:55pm
by Praxis
JediMaster415 wrote:I think Mace WIndu will be Vader's first Jedi kill to show that he will bring about their downfall since Mace is supposed to be, perhaps, the best warrior in the Jedi Order at the time.
To quote Samuel Jackson: "It's great to play the second-baddest guy in the galaxy" (I may have gotten the quote alittle off, but it was something on that line).
Interviewer: "Second? Who's the first?"
Samuel Jackson: "Yoda, of course!"
Yoda is #1, Mace is #2
Posted: 2004-08-05 05:57pm
by Praxis
Unless he fires a concussion missle at him.
Jedi reflexes or not, it's gonna be hard to dodge a 192 megaton explosion
Posted: 2004-08-05 05:59pm
by Crazedwraith
Rogue 9 wrote:I can see Fett earning bounties at 15, but I can't see him earning a bounty on Mace Windu at 15. Think about who we're discussing here. An advanced padawan, perhaps one of the lesser Knights, maybe. But Master Windu? That'd be a cold day in hell...
Oh I don't know if he used the
Slave I, or liberal amounts of explosives. I mean just alot of people could take out a jedi. If they had an automatic grenade-luancher and didn't care about colateral.
Posted: 2004-08-05 06:00pm
by Galvatron
Rogue 9 wrote:I can see Fett earning bounties at 15, but I can't see him earning a bounty on Mace Windu at 15. Think about who we're discussing here. An advanced padawan, perhaps one of the lesser Knights, maybe. But Master Windu? That'd be a cold day in hell...
Agreed.
I'm sorry we never got to see hordes of Mandalorian supercommandoes successfully holding their own against the Jedi.
And no, I don't count the clonetroopers as Mandalorians.
Posted: 2004-08-05 07:07pm
by Praxis
Crazedwraith wrote:Rogue 9 wrote:I can see Fett earning bounties at 15, but I can't see him earning a bounty on Mace Windu at 15. Think about who we're discussing here. An advanced padawan, perhaps one of the lesser Knights, maybe. But Master Windu? That'd be a cold day in hell...
Oh I don't know if he used the
Slave I, or liberal amounts of explosives. I mean just alot of people could take out a jedi. If they had an automatic grenade-luancher and didn't care about colateral.
Automatic grenade launcher? That's not gonna do much. If I were Windu I'd use the force to send the grenades flying right back at the launcher. BAM!
No, the only way a non Jedi would kill a Jedi without an army is by some kind of MASSIVE explosion...a nuke, maybe? Seismic mine? Concussion missle?
Posted: 2004-08-05 07:11pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
NOT BOBA FETT
Mace shouldn't be killed like a dog by a fucking little 12-year-old punk. That would be shameful.
It should be Anakin.
Posted: 2004-08-05 07:33pm
by VF5SS
Oh Boba Fett will probably end up killing him anyway. What's it matter as long as he dies looking cool?
Posted: 2004-08-05 07:44pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Plenty matters other than whether it looks cool...
Posted: 2004-08-05 08:06pm
by MrAnderson
Rogue 9 wrote:Just to point out: While I think it would be awesome as all hell to have Boba Fett get his revenge with comprehension dawning in Windu's eyes right before he's killed, its not likely given that Boba will be in his mid teens at the oldest at the time of RotS, I believe.
Age matters not if young Boba is in the Slave 1 and drops a seismic charge on Mace while he is in battle.
Posted: 2004-08-05 08:07pm
by VF5SS
Well, my dear Spanky, what other reason does Mace have for existing if not to look cool? You've got Samuel L. Jackson playing the coolest motherfucking jedi out there and that's all he's supposed to be. Of course, ROTS may prove that Mace is more than just a cool dude. Right now, he's about as deep as OT Boba Fett. The old school cool.
Posted: 2004-08-05 08:08pm
by MrAnderson
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:NOT BOBA FETT
Mace shouldn't be killed like a dog by a fucking little 12-year-old punk. That would be shameful.
It should be Anakin.
Not everyone deserves a heroric death. Some people should just die.
Posted: 2004-08-05 08:11pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
MrAnderson wrote:Not everyone deserves a heroric death. Some people should just die.
Jackson has said that Windu doesn't "go down like a punk," and being killed by fucking Baby Fett is the definition of going down like a punk.
Posted: 2004-08-05 08:12pm
by Galvatron
MrAnderson wrote:Not everyone deserves a heroric death. Some people should just die.
That doesn't mean he should die by Fett's hand just to appease the fapping fanboys.
Posted: 2004-08-05 08:16pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Besides, from what we have heard, Windu's death COULDN'T involve that 12-year-old, because it's been said that his death scene involves a 100+ move lightsabre fight, IIRC...
No Fett for '05!!
Posted: 2004-08-05 08:23pm
by YT300000
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Besides, from what we have heard, Windu's death COULDN'T involve that 12-year-old, because it's been said that his death scene involves a 100+ move lightsabre fight, IIRC...
SPOILER!!
The same source also says that it will be Anakin. They don't mention if it's as himself or Vader though.
Posted: 2004-08-05 09:05pm
by Knife
I would prefer Dooku, seeing two Jedi Masters (of realitively the same size) fight would be a high point in the movie. But I don't see it happening from what I've heard.
Anikin's big moment is with Obi, so I really think an Anikin V Windu is redundent. So I'll vote for Grievious. He's suppost to be the big bad ass anti Jedi mo fo so it'll be the contrast for the Jedi bad ass that is Samuel Jackson.
Posted: 2004-08-05 09:08pm
by Rogue 9
MrAnderson wrote:Rogue 9 wrote:Just to point out: While I think it would be awesome as all hell to have Boba Fett get his revenge with comprehension dawning in Windu's eyes right before he's killed, its not likely given that Boba will be in his mid teens at the oldest at the time of RotS, I believe.
Age matters not if young Boba is in the Slave 1 and drops a seismic charge on Mace while he is in battle.
Yeah, but that would be anticlimactic as it comes.
IF Fett kills Windu, it had better be done right, with Windu realizing just who this is and why he's there before he dies. Dying from an air-dropped bomb when he's not looking would just be lame no matter how you slice it.