Episode II acting

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2002-11-04 12:35am

Well what do most of you think of the acting in Ep.2. On the Whole I thought it was good for a Star Wars Movie, not too good in some areas (due to bad dialog) but I think all the actors int he Movie did fine. Two actors that get bashed for lackluster perfomances are Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman. I couldn't disagree more, although there were problems I noted, but I would attribute it to bad dialog. I mean Hayden suffered the same problem the Mark Hamill did, he had some of the silly lines.

Well I'm rambling now, but what do you think?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-11-04 12:40am

Christopher Lee was good. Palpatine was pretty good too. Obi-wan was semi good.

Christenson and Portman?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-04 12:45am

Really, I thought that Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman did badly. It wasn't the dialog that was the worst part, though some parts could have been improved, but overall they did a bad job. That's what you get when you just focus on eye candy.

Christopher Lee is always good. I liked Samuel L. Jackson, I think it would have been better if he had some cool lines though.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-11-04 12:52am

It was fine.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 2002-11-04 07:35am

The problem with Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman is that George Lucas sucks at writting romance. Maybe he should bring in a consultant for them parts. It is a major part of the movie don't forget, for the love of Amidalla, Skywalker leaves the Jedi Order and in his anger is corrupted by Palpy. This one of the major factors and is being neglected. Almost as if it was being rushed coz the Lucasarts team were embarassed that a real woman was finally in Starwars.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-11-04 07:38am

Real woman? What about Leia?

I thought the romance was quite weak. But that's just me.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 2002-11-04 07:42am

i never liked Carrie Fisher, the woman is a glue bag so she doesn't count.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-11-04 07:58am

Muad'Dib wrote:i never liked Carrie Fisher, the woman is a glue bag so she doesn't count.

What's a glue bag? (seriously, i dont know)

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-11-04 08:08am

Vympel wrote:
Muad'Dib wrote:i never liked Carrie Fisher, the woman is a glue bag so she doesn't count.
What's a glue bag? (seriously, i dont know)

I was wondering that too. I am assuming that it relates to the old practice of selling old broken down horses to glue factories. I don't see the direct correlation but I took it to mean that he thought she was pretty ugly.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-04 08:17am

The acting was tolerable to good. Hayden and and Natalie both gave less than brilliant performances. I think a lot of that did have to do with the fact there dialogue scene were poorly written. It's hard to spout tripe and sound good doing it.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-11-04 08:49am

The entire "love story" was forced. It was like Hayden and Natalie were afraid of each other. Granted, that is how their characters felt, but it was worse than that. Very stiff.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-04 09:39am

Kelly Antilles wrote:The entire "love story" was forced. It was like Hayden and Natalie were afraid of each other. Granted, that is how their characters felt, but it was worse than that. Very stiff.

George Lucas' problem is that he's never had good luck with relationships (he lists that as one of his major regrets in life; unsuccessful in love), and most of his relationships with women have probably been as a wealthy, famous man (when you're a billionaire, you can spout really awful lines and women will still want to be with you).

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-11-04 09:47am

Darth Wong wrote: George Lucas' problem is that he's never had good luck with relationships (he lists that as one of his major regrets in life; unsuccessful in love), and most of his relationships with women have probably been as a wealthy, famous man (when you're a billionaire, you can spout really awful lines and women will still want to be with you).

Yeah, but 15 years ago, he pulled off the Leia/Han love story flawlessly. Of course, that's probably due to better acting. Having mostly established actors (Harrison was, what, 15 years older than Hayden is now when he filmed the OT?) who have experience with such things.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-04 11:40am

I wonder how much Ford/Fisher were allowed to come up with their own lines vs. Christensen/Portman. I remember hearing that the "I know" was an ad-lib they used. The fact that the more experienced actors came up with better lines and the fact that they were more experienced might help explain why that romance turned out better on screen than the Anakin/Amidala one.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-04 12:37pm

The entire romance gound like a pair of rough stones.

Lee was good, especially at the end, and so was Jackson. Best (Jar Jar), thankfully, was minimized.

Palpy was done well.

Moonshadow · Post by **Moonshadow** » 2002-11-04 01:41pm

speaking of Jar-Jar the moron, didn't he seem Taller than usual in Episode II?

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-11-04 01:44pm

Moonshadow wrote:speaking of Jar-Jar the moron, didn't he seem Taller than usual in Episode II?

I'm pretty sure it was the combination of the robes and that he was actually standing up straight.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-04 01:46pm

Moonshadow wrote:speaking of Jar-Jar the moron, didn't he seem Taller than usual in Episode II?

Not really. He was pretty tall in Ep I. It's just that he was always behind someone or something.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-11-04 02:11pm

Not to mention Liam Neeson. I think his height and the height of Hayden in the movie came out to about the same. Ewan Mcgregor though is a lot shorter which helped make the others look larger. On the whole I thought the acting was good. Yeah there were bad dialogue lines, still though, I thought it was really good. so bleh!

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-04 02:16pm

Forgot: I though McGregor pulled off a pretty convincing Obi-Wan. The whole time he was on screen, I kept noticing similarities between him and Alec Guiness.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2002-11-04 02:18pm

I think Portman's acting was the weakest. Christensen did a pretty good job, given the part he was playing; I mean, Anakin Skywalker was supposed to be a whiny little brat who has never had experience with women, and Hayden pulled that off pretty damn well if you ask me. The only problem was that Natalie's performance did not complement his as well as it needed to, so his performance looked worse than it actually was.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-11-04 02:38pm

neoolong wrote:I wonder how much Ford/Fisher were allowed to come up with their own lines vs. Christensen/Portman. I remember hearing that the "I know" was an ad-lib they used.

It happened like this: Carrie was experiencing all her down effects from her drug abuse so during this scene she kept forgetting lines, and after dozens of attempts of repeating the scene and saying the same lines again and again Harrison Ford got fed up and said "I know" in a sarcastic way, and Lucas liked it better.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-04 02:47pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
neoolong wrote:I wonder how much Ford/Fisher were allowed to come up with their own lines vs. Christensen/Portman. I remember hearing that the "I know" was an ad-lib they used.
It happened like this: Carrie was experiencing all her down effects from her drug abuse so during this scene she kept forgetting lines, and after dozens of attempts of repeating the scene and saying the same lines again and again Harrison Ford got fed up and said "I know" in a sarcastic way, and Lucas liked it better.

Was that from one of those Where Are They Now specials. I think I remember hearing that.

Though I wonder, if there were many more scenes like that.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-11-04 02:48pm

neoolong wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
neoolong wrote:I wonder how much Ford/Fisher were allowed to come up with their own lines vs. Christensen/Portman. I remember hearing that the "I know" was an ad-lib they used.
It happened like this: Carrie was experiencing all her down effects from her drug abuse so during this scene she kept forgetting lines, and after dozens of attempts of repeating the scene and saying the same lines again and again Harrison Ford got fed up and said "I know" in a sarcastic way, and Lucas liked it better.
Was that from one of those Where Are They Now specials. I think I remember hearing that.

Though I wonder, if there were many more scenes like that.

Probably, since Carrie Fisher was a junkie

Of course, Ford's version was different, he says he discussed it with Lucas and he said ok, and then they filmed it Ford's way.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-04 03:01pm

Just goes to show, a drugged out junkie can act better than Natalie Portman.