ARC 170 fighter: good or bad? (Ep III)

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-08-23 11:00pm

Link

Finally, it's been released. What do you guys think? Cool or crap? I kinda like it (with the proviso that the end product always looks different and better than the concept art).

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-08-23 11:08pm

Hmm. Interesting. All and all, a decent cross between the X-Wing and the Republic Gunship - now we know where the boys over at Incom got the design idea.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-23 11:14pm

So, are Z-95s just shit out of luck for a movie appearance?

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-08-23 11:16pm

Rogue 9 wrote:So, are Z-95s just shit out of luck for a movie appearance?

Unless they sneak it in during the battle; remember the Falcon's cameo during the Borg attack in First Contact?

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-08-23 11:17pm

I think that looks sweet.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-23 11:18pm

JME2 wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:So, are Z-95s just shit out of luck for a movie appearance?
Unless they sneak it in during the battle; remember the Falcon's cameo during the Borg attack in First Contact?

Actually, no I don't. *Goes to watch it again.* But that'd likely be because ILM had the model lying around and decided to use it. They don't have one of a Z-95. Hopefully they'll put them in there, though.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-08-23 11:48pm

They've stated for months that the Z-95 will definately NOT appear in RotS.

As for the ARC 170, it looks alright, but I bet the version that actually appears in the film will look different, as that concept design is two years old.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-23 11:55pm

God damn, why must you come in and start jabbing about the stuff I've been assiduously trying not to learn for certain?

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2004-08-23 11:58pm

Looks Anime-ish to me.

Good Disign, like one of the old fighter/bombers from ww-2, and the Badass factor is threw the Roof!

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-08-24 12:25am

I hate it. What was wrong with the Z-95 and Y-Wing?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-24 12:34am

Chris OFarrell wrote:I hate it. What was wrong with the Z-95 and Y-Wing?

Precisely. *Grumps*

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-08-24 12:39am

Chris OFarrell wrote:I hate it. What was wrong with the Z-95 and Y-Wing?

Those probably are contemporaries of the VSD, which postdate the Clone Wars.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-08-24 12:41am

phongn wrote:
Chris OFarrell wrote:I hate it. What was wrong with the Z-95 and Y-Wing?
Those probably are contemporaries of the VSD, which postdate the Clone Wars.

Z-95 predates TPM and thats canon.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2004-08-24 12:44am

Who cares about the Headhunter. This thing looks kickass, and it probably is much better armed since the Gunships of the Republic dished out major ass kicking power and this looks like a smaller version of a Gunship. I like it a lot. Also it, i dont know, 'clicks with the whole feel of the Clone Army better.

President Sharky · Post by **President Sharky** » 2004-08-24 01:24am

I really like it too. The 3-man crew and rear gun evokes images of WWII flying fortresses. Perhaps this is the Republic's fighter-bomber?

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-08-24 01:51am

Between this and the V-19 Torrent fighters in CW, I´m pretty much satisfied with Republic fighters in motion as is. Anything else is just a bonus.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2004-08-24 01:53am

looks kinda cool, but what is the point of the S foils on that thing?

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-08-24 01:57am

Icehawk wrote:looks kinda cool, but what is the point of the S foils on that thing?

Interestingly, it's a similar argument to the 'wings' on the shuttlepod - but that's a P.O.S. At least this crafr has style.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-08-24 02:40am

Yeah, considering the age of the drawing and the statement below, it's very likely that it'll look nothing like what's seen there:

Starting next week, a new image series will be available for all visitors. Art of Revenge explores the amazing wealth of concept art generated by the Art Department. Under the direction of Ryan Church and Erik Tiemens, hundreds of breathtaking and intriguing pieces of original art have been developed to help George Lucas envision the final chapter of the Star Wars saga. Each illustration, painting or design represents one step in the creative process, some being very close to final designs, while others being creative departures that never make it to the movie screen.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-08-24 05:28am

Chris OFarrell wrote:I hate it. What was wrong with the Z-95 and Y-Wing?

Z-95: because it's an EU creation and noone at ILM or Lucas gives a crap about it

Y-Wing: because its been done.

I've said it scores of times, I will continue to not understand *at all* the desire to see EU ships in a SW film. Never would I be more disappointed than to see the overwhelmingly derivative and lame EU ships (for the most part) take the place of new designs that will actually surprise us.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-08-24 05:31am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yeah, considering the age of the drawing and the statement below, it's very likely that it'll look nothing like what's seen there:

If anyone's seen the Art of Attack of the Clones (I've flipped through it, didn't purchase, way too pricey) you can see that demonstrated by the LAAT ("Republic Gunship") designs- the concept art never does the final model justice.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-08-24 05:37am

That fighter looks like a reject from the game Starlancer

Not bad though...

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-08-24 06:21am

Frankly, I don't see why we can't just have X-wings in the prequels. The design could conceivably be centuries old. Yes, that means ignoring the EU.

Also, shouldn't latter-day Republic fighters look more like TIEs anyway?

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-08-24 06:34am

Galvatron wrote:Frankly, I don't see why we can't just have X-wings in the prequels. The design could conceivably be centuries old. Yes, that means ignoring the EU.

Also, shouldn't latter-day Republic fighters look more like TIEs anyway?

Why? Seinar Fleet Systems (well, it wasn't called that back then, but anyway) shouldn't have a monopoly on fighter design. We already know Incom did work for the Republic, and that has Incom design written all over it.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-08-24 06:39am

Vympel wrote:
Galvatron wrote:Also, shouldn't latter-day Republic fighters look more like TIEs anyway?
Why?

To show the transition to the OT Imperial designs, like they're doing with the clonetroopers and warships.