Hapan Nova Cruiser's at the Battle of Endor ?!?

Crix Dorius · Post by **Crix Dorius** » 2004-08-25 12:44pm

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-08-25 12:47pm

Erm ... all I see is vague shapes Crix.

It might be the "BG Ship" that was featued on SW Hyperspace several years ago- i.e. the unidentified Rebel warship.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-08-25 12:51pm

They could be Carracks with cloud spots behind them.

Jordie · Post by **Jordie** » 2004-08-25 12:52pm

It might be this. A Flurry escort carrier.

EDIT: But, yeah, could be the Neb-B, silly me.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-08-25 12:55pm

To me it look like a Nebulon-b and it's shadow.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-08-25 12:59pm

The bumps aren't the right size for N-B.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-08-25 01:02pm

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:They could be Carracks with cloud spots behind them.

Assuming the ships are in formation, or at the same range as the Mon-Cals, they're too big for Carracks. You're right about the clouds, though.

Lord Revan wrote:To me it look like a Nebulon-b and it's shadow.

Its shadow? On what, the cloud cover? Both sticks are missing the engine section for it to be a Nebulon-B

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-08-25 01:05pm

They could also just be some sort of construction ship, and not a part of the battle at all.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-08-25 01:35pm

Just another unidentified Imperial starship. Certaintly not a Hapan Nova Cruiser--and if it were, it would be of the captured-and-refit-for-the-Imperial-Navy variety.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-08-25 01:38pm

I zoomed in on it in paint, and I would have to agree with the Carrack assesment, the shadows below look like dark spots in the cloud formations on the planet. At first glance I thought it may be a horribly out of scale B-wing

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-08-25 01:42pm

I think better and multible screen captures are needed, to see more details and how they move (if at all).

Right now all I can say is that they're Nebulons very far away, Corvettes from far away and intersecting cloud variations on Endor, or a new ship that hasn't been identified.

Could be the "Y-head Corvette" that was revealed last year.

But right now I request better multiple screencaps, because if that up there is all we'll be forced to work with, then we'll be up Shit Creek paddle-less real quick.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-25 02:02pm

I say they look like Nebulon-Bs. There is a bulge at the back end if you look at it.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-08-25 02:29pm

They are Nebulon-Bs. Check out this high-resolution image from SWTC

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-08-25 02:42pm

Has there ever been anything as useful as the Star Was Technical Commentaries?

Crix Dorius · Post by **Crix Dorius** » 2004-08-25 02:44pm

If they are Neb-B`s... Then they fly backwards.

In the scene they fly from right to left.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-08-25 02:54pm

Crix Dorius wrote:In the scene they fly from right to left.

Which is not a big deal at all. Star Wars ships can fly backwards, and since the Rebel fleet was repositioning itself to engage the Star Destroyers, executing such a maneuver is in no way a stretch.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-08-25 03:01pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Crix Dorius wrote:In the scene they fly from right to left.
Which is not a big deal at all. Star Wars ships can fly backwards, and since the Rebel fleet was repositioning itself to engage the Star Destroyers, executing such a maneuver is in no way a stretch.

While entirely possible, it's not the norm. They wouldn't have any reason to do so. And they no longer look like any ship I've ever seen. There's 2 more below them, and they confirm the shape.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-25 03:06pm

They're Nebulon B mark 2s, as seen in TIE Fighter and a couple other sources, apparently including RotJ. The high resolution bags it; you can see the double protrusion at the front where the Mark 1 only has one hull section jutting down.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-08-25 03:07pm

Rogue 9 wrote:They're Nebulon B mark 2s, as seen in TIE Fighter and a couple other sources, apparently including RotJ. The high resolution bags it; you can see the double protrusion at the front where the Mark 1 only has one hull section jutting down.

Uh, its a perfect side view; there's only Nebulon-B standards.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-08-25 03:09pm

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:
Wicked Pilot wrote:
Crix Dorius wrote:In the scene they fly from right to left.
Which is not a big deal at all. Star Wars ships can fly backwards, and since the Rebel fleet was repositioning itself to engage the Star Destroyers, executing such a maneuver is in no way a stretch.
While entirely possible, it's not the norm. They wouldn't have any reason to do so. And they no longer look like any ship I've ever seen. There's 2 more below them, and they confirm the shape.

They are quite obviously Nebulon-Bs in that hi-res shot, and they appear to be the right size if they're relatively close to the Mon-Cals.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-25 03:09pm

No they aren't. If I wasn't on a lab comp I'd download the high res and circle it for you, but I can't. The side view is just a tad off, and if you look to the right side of the front section you can see a second protrusion emerging from behind the one facing us on both ships.

Edit: There's a second pair of Nebulon Bs directly below the Mon Cal that's to the left of the Falcon, and they look like standards. Are they what you were looking at? Because I'm looking at the pair to the right of the Mon Cal and just below the Falcon.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-08-25 03:09pm

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:While entirely possible, it's not the norm. They wouldn't have any reason to do so.

I just gave you a reason; a pretty obvious one at that. The fleet had to not only reverse course, but reform for a combat engagement. Ships had to be shuffled around.

And they no longer look like any ship I've ever seen. There's 2 more below them, and they confirm the shape.

Phongn posted a higher resolution and more detailed photo for a reason. Try to pay attention.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-08-25 03:11pm

Rogue 9 wrote:They're Nebulon B mark 2s, as seen in TIE Fighter and a couple other sources, apparently including RotJ. The high resolution bags it; you can see the double protrusion at the front where the Mark 1 only has one hull section jutting down.

No, you're seeing the darker parts of the hull and the lighter, narrower part that's flat hull plating.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-08-25 03:14pm

Rogue 9 wrote:No they aren't. If I wasn't on a lab comp I'd download the high res and circle it for you, but I can't. The side view is just a tad off, and if you look to the right side of the front section you can see a second protrusion emerging from behind the one facing us on both ships.

Edit: There's a second pair of Nebulon Bs directly below the Mon Cal that's to the left of the Falcon, and they look like standards. Are they what you were looking at? Because I'm looking at the pair to the right of the Mon Cal and just below the Falcon.

If you look closely at the larger picture, you'll notice the same effect you think is the double hull extending to the very bow of the ship. That's because the very tip is also "unplated."

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-25 03:15pm

StarshipTitanic wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:They're Nebulon B mark 2s, as seen in TIE Fighter and a couple other sources, apparently including RotJ. The high resolution bags it; you can see the double protrusion at the front where the Mark 1 only has one hull section jutting down.
No, you're seeing the darker parts of the hull and the lighter, narrower part that's flat hull plating.

No, I'm seeing the reason why Crix thought they were Hapan Novas. The front (which he thought was the Nova's rear) is split, like a Mark 2, making them resemble reversed Novas from a distance. You only see a little bit of the starboard hull protrusion because it's a side view, but they're not perfectly perpendicular to the camera angle and you can make out the second protrusion.