What if Luke had taken Hans offer in ANH?

Mark S · Post by **Mark S** » 2004-09-02 02:29pm

At the rebel base, Han asks Luke to come with him and join his crew instead of joining the rebellion. What if Luke had accepted?
I assume Kenobi would still eventually start hounding him to go to Dagobah. Would he still confront Vader? When Vader and the Emperor feel the disturbance in the Force, would they still know that it is the son of Skywalker? Do Han and Luke ever see Leia again? Does Leia even escape Yavin when the Death Star isn't destroyed?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-09-02 02:30pm

Mark S wrote:At the rebel base, Han asks Luke to come with him and join his crew instead of joining the rebellion. What if Luke had accepted?
I assume Kenobi would still eventually start hounding him to go to Dagobah. Would he still confront Vader? When Vader and the Emperor feel the disturbance in the Force, would they still know that it is the son of Skywalker? Do Han and Luke ever see Leia again? Does Leia even escape Yavin when the Death Star isn't destroyed?

Leia dies. The Rebellion is beheaded as an organization.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-09-02 02:35pm

I think that it would be nearly impossible for Luke to have taken that path. At that point in his development he was a wide eyed innocent that was completely enamored with the rebellion and helping them as well as helping Leia. There was not even a moment's hesitation when Han made the offer and it even sounded half hearted on Han's part.

However if he did it would have led to a very lucrative career for Han as he woudl have had a Jedi padawan on his side and they really did make a good team. I don't think Vader would have ever found out about Luke since I believe the only reason he knew he existed was his fame for blowing up the deathstar.

Luke would have faded into obscurity with Han as a nortorious smuggler but thats about it. The Rebellion would have been crushed and I don't think Ben could have helped Luke after that point because without support from teh Alliance I don't think Luke would have even been in a position to challeneg the Empire and Ben would figure "What the hell, let him live out his life in peace, probably best that way."

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2004-09-02 04:32pm

I think if the idea of smuggling tempted him, then he'd be a push-over for the Dark Side. If Vader ever found him, they'd rule the galaxy as father and son. Otherwise, Han's corrupting influence leads Luke to the Dark Side through self-interest. One day, he's minding the illegal goods, ready to saber or blast anyone who tries to stiff him, and the next thing you know Dark Side Luke is force-choking his first stripper.
Happens all the time.

Lord Woodlouse · Post by **Lord Woodlouse** » 2004-09-02 04:40pm

I dunno, a confrontation might still be possible. Except this way we might see Han and Luke rise to form their own syndicate, or maybe become highly influential under Jabba (Han now pays his dues).

It could be a slip under the net this time, rather than hitching a ride with a massive all out attack.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-09-02 05:27pm

Dosen't Luke at this time think of Vader has the man who killed his father?

HhhhMmmm...

A Dark Side Luke out to kill Vader for revenge and destory "his" empire out of spite...

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-09-02 06:21pm

"Dark Side Luke..."

Sounds like some anti-hero jedi gunslinger.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2004-09-02 07:54pm

I wonder what Yoda would do in that situation. Live out the rest of his days on Dagobah, or try to take on Palpatine himself?

Lt. Dan · Post by **Lt. Dan** » 2004-09-02 08:53pm

Drooling Iguana wrote:I wonder what Yoda would do in that situation. Live out the rest of his days on Dagobah, or try to take on Palpatine himself?

Wouldn't Yoda have been too old for that? I think it's a bit much for him to take on Palpy, Vader and/or Luke.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-09-02 08:58pm

Bob the Gunslinger wrote:I think if the idea of smuggling tempted him, then he'd be a push-over for the Dark Side. If Vader ever found him, they'd rule the galaxy as father and son. Otherwise, Han's corrupting influence leads Luke to the Dark Side through self-interest. One day, he's minding the illegal goods, ready to saber or blast anyone who tries to stiff him, and the next thing you know Dark Side Luke is force-choking his first stripper.
Happens all the time.

Han had his rules he lived by, and I think they would have rubbed off on Luke:

*Never calculate a jump while drunk.
*Don't kill unless you have to.
*Never, never, NEVER transport slaves.

I think Luke could have made quite the... SCOUNDREL.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2004-09-03 01:11am

Lt. Dan wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:I wonder what Yoda would do in that situation. Live out the rest of his days on Dagobah, or try to take on Palpatine himself?
Wouldn't Yoda have been too old for that? I think it's a bit much for him to take on Palpy, Vader and/or Luke.

Doesn't mean he can't try.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-09-03 01:28am

Drooling Iguana wrote:
Lt. Dan wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:I wonder what Yoda would do in that situation. Live out the rest of his days on Dagobah, or try to take on Palpatine himself?
Wouldn't Yoda have been too old for that? I think it's a bit much for him to take on Palpy, Vader and/or Luke.
Doesn't mean he can't try.

No, try not! Do! Or do not. There is no try.

Lord Woodlouse · Post by **Lord Woodlouse** » 2004-09-03 04:12pm

Hey, Luke might come out more balanced. What is it with the Force that forces you to be either a lollypop sucking plank of wood or an evil baby killing bastard?

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2004-09-03 05:11pm

Probably John Campbell. Lucas liked using his ideas a lot when creating characters.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-09-03 06:15pm

Leia becomes Vader's padawan!

Drooling Iguana wrote:
Lt. Dan wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:I wonder what Yoda would do in that situation. Live out the rest of his days on Dagobah, or try to take on Palpatine himself?
Wouldn't Yoda have been too old for that? I think it's a bit much for him to take on Palpy, Vader and/or Luke.
Doesn't mean he can't try.

Yoda's main problem is getting of his planet. But once he does that its a relatively simple task to mind trick thousands of people, hitch his way to the Death Star, commandeer it and then ram it into Coruscant.

Pwn3d!

And I think Bob means Joseph, not John.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2004-09-03 06:24pm

Well, Yoda had to get to Dagobah somehow. Who's to say that he didn't have a ship stashed away the entire time?

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-09-03 06:28pm

Although it's never revealed how Yoda got to Deagobah(sp) EU tells us he went there to confront the last surviving member of a Dark Jedi uprising. Of couse Ep 3 is more than likely to give another explanation.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2004-09-03 06:32pm

Stravo wrote:I think that it would be nearly impossible for Luke to have taken that path. At that point in his development he was a wide eyed innocent that was completely enamored with the rebellion and helping them as well as helping Leia. There was not even a moment's hesitation when Han made the offer and it even sounded half hearted on Han's part.

However if he did it would have led to a very lucrative career for Han as he woudl have had a Jedi padawan on his side and they really did make a good team. I don't think Vader would have ever found out about Luke since I believe the only reason he knew he existed was his fame for blowing up the deathstar.

Luke would have faded into obscurity with Han as a nortorious smuggler but thats about it. The Rebellion would have been crushed and I don't think Ben could have helped Luke after that point because without support from teh Alliance I don't think Luke would have even been in a position to challeneg the Empire and Ben would figure "What the hell, let him live out his life in peace, probably best that way."

There is the fact that Biggs is at the base, too. No better motivation than to fly with your best friend. Anyway, The Empire killed his Aunt and Uncle, Destroyed their farm, Killed his mentor(through Vader) and more! Its not very likely Luke would have passed up a chance to get back at the Empire!

Being a smuggler would not let him do that.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-09-03 07:05pm

Smuggling could let him screw over (in a small way) the Empire. He might even be smuggling weapons to the Rebels for all we know!

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2004-09-04 01:38am

Kurgan wrote:Smuggling could let him screw over (in a small way) the Empire. He might even be smuggling weapons to the Rebels for all we know!

That's nothing compared to the chance to destroy the ultimate symbol of Imperial power!

THE DEATH STAR!!!!!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-09-04 12:59pm

Stravo wrote:I think that it would be nearly impossible for Luke to have taken that path.

If it's feasible to write a comic book series about Yoda hijacking the Death Star and crashing it into Coruscant, then Luke going with Han is plenty possible.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-09-04 01:06pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Stravo wrote:I think that it would be nearly impossible for Luke to have taken that path.
If it's feasible to write a comic book series about Yoda hijacking the Death Star and crashing it into Coruscant, then Luke going with Han is plenty possible.

You've GOT to shitting me.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-09-04 01:17pm

Stravo wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Stravo wrote:I think that it would be nearly impossible for Luke to have taken that path.
If it's feasible to write a comic book series about Yoda hijacking the Death Star and crashing it into Coruscant, then Luke going with Han is plenty possible.
You've GOT to shitting me.

Star Wars Infinites :ANH #4.

I wish I could it wasn't true because then this would just be a bad figment of my and many other's imagination.

But nope...Yoda goes in and with the help fo R2....mind controls Tarkin...takes over the propulsion and fire control of the Death Star...and at the end proceeds to ram Coruscant with it.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-09-04 01:40pm

Ghost Rider wrote:Star Wars Infinites :ANH #4.

I wish I could it wasn't true because then this would just be a bad figment of my and many other's imagination.

But nope...Yoda goes in and with the help fo R2....mind controls Tarkin...takes over the propulsion and fire control of the Death Star...and at the end proceeds to ram Coruscant with it.

Wouldn't people lower on the chain of command figure out that something was going wrong?

Tarkin: We're the Coruscant System now? Okay. Start up the engines... turn on course 1.338... and RAM THE STATION INTO THE PLANET!!! BWAAHAHAHAHA!!!
Navigation Officer: What?! No. That's crazy. There's no way I'm ramming the Death Star into Coruscant.
Tarkin: Come on... it would be so cool.
Navigation Officer: No, goddamit.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-09-04 01:52pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Star Wars Infinites :ANH #4.

I wish I could it wasn't true because then this would just be a bad figment of my and many other's imagination.

But nope...Yoda goes in and with the help fo R2....mind controls Tarkin...takes over the propulsion and fire control of the Death Star...and at the end proceeds to ram Coruscant with it.
Wouldn't people lower on the chain of command figure out that something was going wrong?

Tarkin: We're the Coruscant System now? Okay. Start up the engines... turn on course 1.338... and RAM THE STATION INTO THE PLANET!!! BWAAHAHAHAHA!!!
Navigation Officer: What?! No. That's crazy. There's no way I'm ramming the Death Star into Coruscant.
Tarkin: Come on... it would be so cool.
Navigation Officer: No, goddamit.

You would think so.

Nope...all Yoda needed to do was get R2-D2 hooked up and it was all his.

Literally after the DS1 was through blasting SSD's...the gunners finally took out the Superlaser control...so Yoda just had R2 make for ramming speed.

Seriously it hurt to remember that.

Course most the infinites take a small bit, twist and turn it for the far, far stupider and worse.

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