Imperial Fleet at the beginning of Endor

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-09-22 11:54pm

The following screengrab (~200K PNG24) shows what is probably the majority of the Imperial fleet at the beginning.

For the more distant objects, I counted anything that vaguely resembled an ISD as one (since ILM's stars are more or less perfect dots). From there, I counted 32 ISDs and 1 SSD.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-09-23 12:01am

I count 34 ISDs and 1 SSD.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-09-23 12:34am

I count 33 and 1.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-09-23 03:05am

I can't find the SSD

Oh wait... there it is

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2004-09-23 04:36am

I could only see 30 of them. Some of them are pretty small - for all I know it might be a fighter...

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-09-23 10:46am

There´s definetely 31+ ISD I´s and II´s, with some "BB"-ships here and there and the Executor in the middle (the "ICS" probably hiding behind it).
Wonder if some of the smaller support-ships seen later on belong to the Imperial fleet? I recall some of them being close to the Imps seemingly without getting shot at. They´d be too small to be noticed in the distance of that particular image.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-09-23 03:14pm

Somewhere out there is the communications vessel. Supposedly, it's larger than an ISD, so it's either obscured by the SSD or simply off screen.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-09-23 03:30pm

Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:I could only see 30 of them. Some of them are pretty small - for all I know it might be a fighter...

From that distance? Surely you jest...

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-09-24 01:06pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Somewhere out there is the communications vessel. Supposedly, it's larger than an ISD, so it's either obscured by the SSD or simply off screen.

One of the ships seems to have a disproportionately tall taower. Maybe that's it?

Interesting that they upped the number of destroyers though. Originally it was only 22

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-09-24 11:55pm

Likely we just couldn't make out the extra ones.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-09-25 12:00am

Ender wrote:One of the ships seems to have a disproportionately tall taower. Maybe that's it?

I can't see that one. What I do see is a vessel that doesn't have a tower at all. The tower on all the ISDs is very noticable, even at distances where the ship in question is an itty bitty dot. Take a look at the ship that's the very highest on the screen; go the very right edge of the SSD and go straight up, you'll see it. It looks more like a Mon Cal than any Imperial warship I can think of.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-09-25 12:27am

I count 33 ISDs and 1 SSD. The ship at the edge of the screen probably has its tower cut off by the top of the screen. I seriously doubt any of the shapes are the mysterious "communications ship" people talk about, because why would ILM go through the trouble of making one unique shape among the ISDs?

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-09-25 12:29am

StarshipTitanic wrote:The ship at the edge of the screen probably has its tower cut off by the top of the screen.

Ohh shit, is this wide-screen? I couldn't even tell that there were the black bands on the screen. Guess that shoots down my proposed new ship.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-09-25 12:33am

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
StarshipTitanic wrote:The ship at the edge of the screen probably has its tower cut off by the top of the screen.
Ohh shit, is this wide-screen? I couldn't even tell that there were the black bands on the screen. Guess that shoots down my proposed new ship.

Maybe it's just the edge of the universe.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-09-25 11:48am

StarshipTitanic wrote:I count 33 ISDs and 1 SSD. The ship at the edge of the screen probably has its tower cut off by the top of the screen. I seriously doubt any of the shapes are the mysterious "communications ship" people talk about, because why would ILM go through the trouble of making one unique shape among the ISDs?

They did atleast 2x in the original filsm - the unnamed bayless destroyer and you see a ship ~1/3rd the length of the Executor from the Emperor's window. The latter is believed to be the communications ship.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-09-25 01:03pm

33 ISD's, 1 SSD.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2004-09-25 01:29pm

They did atleast 2x in the original filsm - the unnamed bayless destroyer and you see a ship ~1/3rd the length of the Executor from the Emperor's window. The latter is believed to be the communications ship.

Plus the scene with the Executor-style command-tower that had multiple bridges and some battledamage. This is also attributed the "Communications Ship".