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Then new Yavin,

Posted: 2004-09-23 09:23pm
by Knife
Looks like crap. Just finished Ep IV, and when the rebel squadrons do their Yavin flyby, the new CGI Yavin looks terrible.


That, and Kenobi's new Kyrat dragon call, sucks.

Posted: 2004-09-23 09:25pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
They changed Yavin?

Posted: 2004-09-23 09:29pm
by Stravo
I second the shitty Krayt dragon call. It blows donkey balls. What the hell was wrong with the old one?

Posted: 2004-09-23 09:31pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Because it was basically a reuse of the Dewback sound.

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:02am
by Knife
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:They changed Yavin?
Its SOOOOOOOOOOOO CGI. :roll:

On that note, so is the rust splotches on the Sand Crawler.

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:07am
by Spanky The Dolphin
You mean they changed it again?

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:13am
by Knife
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:You mean they changed it again?
Yavin or the sandcrawler? The mid-new scene in the SE with the CGI sandcrawler, has new oragne splotches of rust or wear and tear, on it. Its the scene with the sandcrawler coming up and over a dune, as it goes to the Lars family farm.

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:14am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Yavin. It sounds like you're bitching about something that's seven years old.

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:19am
by Knife
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yavin. It sounds like you're bitching about something that's seven years old.
I don't remember the SE Yavin in the flyby looking so CGI. I'll have to plot in the tape tommarrow, but watching it today on the DVD, it jumped out and said "Hey look at me, don't I look fake!"

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:22am
by Knife
Oh, and while I'm thinking of it, the new Jabba is better, but I don't think he should be so green. :roll:

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:23am
by Tsyroc
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yavin. It sounds like you're bitching about something that's seven years old.
If I started bitching it definately would be. :D

I haven't seen ESB and RotJ SE before and it's been 7 years since I saw the ANH:SE. Lots and lots of stuff that didn't need to be fucked with, and far too much of it screams fake.

It does look like they did a good job cleaning up effects, mat lines etc... I was glad to see the Rancor looking a little less...flat.

RotJ does look odd with the changed bit at Jabba's palace and all the added celebration scenes at the end. If it weren't for this thread I wouldn't have known that one of the places celebrating was Yavin (why the Empire didn't come back and smoke the place out of spite...?). I was getting lost because they were showing so many different places celebrating.

I also thought the insertion of Hayden Christensan as Anakin's spirit made it seem even more like he got off easy for all that he did as Vader.

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:25am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Huh? Yavin's not in the celebration montage at the end of RotJ.

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:27am
by Tsyroc
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Huh? Yavin's not in the celebration montage at the end of RotJ.
Well that's good then, 'cause that means I didn't miss it. :D

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:29am
by Knife
Tsyroc wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Huh? Yavin's not in the celebration montage at the end of RotJ.
Well that's good then, 'cause that means I didn't miss it. :D
They put a red glow in for Yavin, when the Xwings took off from the rebel base. I kind of liked that one.

But the CGI Yavin they used for the Falcon flyby to Yavin IV and the Yavin they used for the Xwing flyby, sucks.

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:45am
by Illuminatus Primus
Can we post images, please?

Posted: 2004-09-24 12:58am
by Utsanomiko
I've got a strange feeling this is more 'I don't remeber what's new in the films and what isn't, so I'll complain about whatever looks odd now that I can see it on DVD' jumps to conclusions like a couple of statements I've seen in the last few days. I didn't notice any difference from the '97 SE, and I saw it maybe 3 months ago.

Posted: 2004-09-24 01:18am
by Icehawk
Hm, it looks fine to me. :|

Posted: 2004-09-24 02:08am
by VT-16
CGI Yavin (in the two fly-bys, and the atmospheric shot with obscuring clouds) has been there ever since ´97, get a decent pair of glasses. :roll:

And, yes, I think it looks good.

The Sandcrawler going over the dune is not CGI, it is the same fucking model they used originally. They just filmed it up close so it looks alot bigger.

Wow, some people can´t tell the difference between CGI and modelwork, color me surprised... :P

Posted: 2004-09-24 02:11am
by Mange
Icehawk wrote:Hm, it looks fine to me. :|
It looks fine to me also. It seems as if people complains about CG Yavin just because they know it's CG. The "new" sandcrawler isn't CG, since modelbuilder Lorne Peterson (who also worked on all the three original movies) said in a Hyperspace chat that he worked on the SE shot of the sand crawler.

EDIT: You beat me to it, VT-16.

Posted: 2004-09-24 02:12am
by VT-16
I really don't know if the new sandcrawler shot is CG, since modelbuilder Lorne Peterson (who also worked on all the three original movies) said in a Hyperspace chat that he worked on the SE shot of the sand crawler.
Read. My. Online. Lips: It is a real, tangible MODEL. :P

Posted: 2004-09-24 02:16am
by Mange
VT-16 wrote:
I really don't know if the new sandcrawler shot is CG, since modelbuilder Lorne Peterson (who also worked on all the three original movies) said in a Hyperspace chat that he worked on the SE shot of the sand crawler.
Read. My. Online. Lips: It is a real, tangible MODEL. :P
That was just what I said in my post, wasn't it?!

Posted: 2004-09-24 02:23am
by VT-16
Yep, but I just felt the need to repeat my stance, just in-case the "I know CGI when I see it"-crowd look past my earlier statement. And you were being a bit vague. People jump all over statements that are vague. Sorry if it looked like I was directing it at you. :oops:

Posted: 2004-09-24 02:52am
by Mange
VT-16 wrote:Yep, but I just felt the need to repeat my stance, just in-case the "I know CGI when I see it"-crowd look past my earlier statement. And you were being a bit vague. People jump all over statements that are vague. Sorry if it looked like I was directing it at you. :oops:
It's cool. I've edited my post to make it less vague.

Posted: 2004-09-24 02:57am
by VT-16
Funny thing, I watched a clip from the O-OT the other day, and the take-off scene in IV has a huge, red blob that´s supposed to be Yavin as seen from Yavin IV. If people think this is somehow more realistic than either the Yavin obscured by clouds or CG Yavin in space, who am I to shatter their dreams... :wink:

Posted: 2004-09-24 03:04am
by Vympel
It surprises me how a lot of people havent seen the SE often and forget what's new and what isn't. Yavin doesn't look fake at all IMO. I've seen the SE more than the originals- I wager. I still know what changes were made and where, though.