Books

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2002-11-10 09:43pm

What books cover the era between ANH and ESB? Ive been lookign to read up on this period some, but wasnt really sure where to start.

Thanks!

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-10 09:44pm

None as far as I know. I think there's a couple comic series...

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2002-11-10 09:50pm

Wasn't Shadows of the Empire between those two?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-10 09:50pm

There are no better resources:

http://www.theforce.net/timetales/

http://www.theforce.net/timeline/

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-10 09:51pm

The Dark wrote:Wasn't Shadows of the Empire between those two?

That's between ESB and ROTJ.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-10 09:51pm

Shadows was between TESB and ROTJ

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-10 09:54pm

The only that tried was(aside from a variety of Marvel comics) was Splinter's of the Mind's Eye.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-10 09:57pm

Ghost Rider wrote:The only that tried was(aside from a variety of Marvel comics) was Splinter's of the Mind's Eye.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-10 09:58pm

Shit, wrong button.

Yeah, I forgot about that one.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-10 10:34pm

Ghost Rider wrote:The only that tried was(aside from a variety of Marvel comics) was Splinter's of the Mind's Eye.

And it's a painful book to read.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2002-11-10 11:04pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:The only that tried was(aside from a variety of Marvel comics) was Splinter's of the Mind's Eye.
And it's a painful book to read.

why is that?

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-10 11:06pm

NF_Utvol wrote:why is that?

Several cop-outs, a forced plot, bad dialogue, and an overall poor effort.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-10 11:35pm

IG-88E wrote:
NF_Utvol wrote:why is that?
Several cop-outs, a forced plot, bad dialogue, and an overall poor effort.

Plus since it was written before them it fits very poorly with TESB and ROTJ.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-10 11:39pm

Stormbringer wrote:
IG-88E wrote:
NF_Utvol wrote:why is that?
Several cop-outs, a forced plot, bad dialogue, and an overall poor effort.
Plus since it was written before them it fits very poorly with TESB and ROTJ.

Damn that book was just plain bad, easily KJA level.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-10 11:42pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: Plus since it was written before them it fits very poorly with TESB and ROTJ.
Damn that book was just plain bad, easily KJA level.

To be fair, a lot of it's just because it was written before there was any real mythos established. He didn't know the universe or characters ery well.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-10 11:44pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: Plus since it was written before them it fits very poorly with TESB and ROTJ.
Damn that book was just plain bad, easily KJA level.
To be fair, a lot of it's just because it was written before there was any real mythos established. He didn't know the universe or characters ery well.

Yes, that is true. I don't really fault the author for it, but the fact remains that the book was very very bad.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-10 11:58pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: To be fair, a lot of it's just because it was written before there was any real mythos established. He didn't know the universe or characters ery well.
Yes, that is true. I don't really fault the author for it, but the fact remains that the book was very very bad.

It would have been a passable book if hadn't been contradicted by later stuff. But that's a common failing for a lot of the early books, a poorly defined Star Wars universe.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-11 12:00am

Stormbringer wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: To be fair, a lot of it's just because it was written before there was any real mythos established. He didn't know the universe or characters ery well.
Yes, that is true. I don't really fault the author for it, but the fact remains that the book was very very bad.
It would have been a passable book if hadn't been contradicted by later stuff. But that's a common failing for a lot of the early books, a poorly defined Star Wars universe.

Maybe

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-11 12:18am

Sea Skimmer wrote: It would have been a passable book if hadn't been contradicted by later stuff. But that's a common failing for a lot of the early books, a poorly defined Star Wars universe.

Maybe[/quote]

No. Luke and Leia just HAPPEN to be thrown into a cell with two Yuzzem? Luke HAPPENS to speak the language? The mining colony HAPPENS to have Yuzzem and not another pair of aliens? Bullshit. There's too many coincidences in that book to make the plot beleivable.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-11 12:24am

IG-88E wrote: No. Luke and Leia just HAPPEN to be thrown into a cell with two Yuzzem? Luke HAPPENS to speak the language? The mining colony HAPPENS to have Yuzzem and not another pair of aliens? Bullshit. There's too many coincidences in that book to make the plot beleivable.

It's not that hard to believe. The world could fit their natural habitat or something.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2002-11-11 12:51am

Stormbringer wrote:
IG-88E wrote: No. Luke and Leia just HAPPEN to be thrown into a cell with two Yuzzem? Luke HAPPENS to speak the language? The mining colony HAPPENS to have Yuzzem and not another pair of aliens? Bullshit. There's too many coincidences in that book to make the plot beleivable.
It's not that hard to believe. The world could fit their natural habitat or something.

Yeah, but Luke was a hick from one of the most backwater planets in the galaxy. What are the odds of him speaking that particular language? Rodian I could understand, or Huttese, but not Yuzzem (unless there happens to be a source saying Yuzzem were common on Tatooine, in which case I will formally grant the point).

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-11-11 12:51am

Stormbringer wrote:
IG-88E wrote: No. Luke and Leia just HAPPEN to be thrown into a cell with two Yuzzem? Luke HAPPENS to speak the language? The mining colony HAPPENS to have Yuzzem and not another pair of aliens? Bullshit. There's too many coincidences in that book to make the plot beleivable.
It's not that hard to believe. The world could fit their natural habitat or something.

Yes, that's possible, but when combined with all the others, it makes for a lame plot. And it's besides the point.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-11-11 01:45am

I've never read it. Is it really KJA bad? I hesitate to label things KJA bad because that's so harsh.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-11 01:48am

I give it some leeway given it was written before canon was even fully written...and still KJA has come up with more pathetic coincidences than SotME did.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-11 07:12am

Darth Yoshi wrote:I've never read it. Is it really KJA bad? I hesitate to label things KJA bad because that's so harsh.

It's more of Barbra Hambly bad.