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Like it says in the title, this is just some fun speculation on my part.

Most of us know about the easter egg put into the speeder chase in AOTC (The X-Wing being chased by Vader´s TIE and two escort TIEs), but what if we were to take this seriously, and let them be part of the movie-canon? And not necessarily as X-Wings and TIE fighters from the OT (as these are not meant to come out yet.)

I´m thinking more along the line of one Z-95 Headhunter and three Republic TIEs patrolling the area (since the Z-95 looks almost identical to the X-Wing when seen from above).

Am I on to something or is this useless, since the team responsible for the effects have already said what it is?

VT-16 wrote:Most of us know about the easter egg put into the speeder chase in AOTC (The X-Wing being chased by Vader´s TIE and two escort TIEs),

I have not seen what you refer to. Everytime I see that scene, the sfx guys insist that if you look (vaguely at some point in a great sea of airborne objects) you'll find an x-wing and three TIEs. I look, can't find them, then decide to watch the rest of the fucking movie.

Hahaha, I can!

(When the speeders take a dive and passes the camera on their way, you can see them on the left side of the screen, travelling "upwards" on the screen, over a orange band of light, whereas the rest of the background is black.)

How about a screen cap to enlighten us?

VT-16 wrote:Am I on to something or is this useless, since the team responsible for the effects have already said what it is?

It would make T.I.E. fighters and Z-95s canon in approximately the correct time period for them. Which makes no difference that I'm aware of.

The only problem was ILM defined what they were, even if it was just a joke. So, if we want to use this as a part of canon and not as an inside-joke, we have two choices:

Place the early development/testing of TIEs and X-Wings further back in time, or claim they are one Z-95 and three Republic TIEs (or T.I.E.s) (which matches established information).

I DEMAN SCREENCAPS, FOR MY VCR IS BROKEN!

Somebody needs to find that "Shoe Ship" and put it into a book. Another mystery solved... ; )

As far as I can tell, there is no fucking shoe in RotJ. If there is, then it's not actually on screen at any time.

My guess would be that the account got corrupted from the one about the shoe in the Hoth Asteroid Field in ESB, which definately IS there, as I've seen it several times and know exactly where to look for it.

Shoe in ESB: yes. Shoe in RotJ: doesn't exist or isn't actually visable.

Shoe in ESB? Which scene?

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:As far as I can tell, there is no fucking shoe in RotJ. If there is, then it's not actually on screen at any time.

My guess would be that the account got corrupted from the one about the shoe in the Hoth Asteroid Field in ESB, which definately IS there, as I've seen it several times and know exactly where to look for it.

Shoe in ESB: yes. Shoe in RotJ: doesn't exist or isn't actually visable.

Where and when do you see said shoe?

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:Shoe in ESB? Which scene?

The asteroid escape. Check out http: //www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/5100/shoe.html . There's also a potato, and you can see a TIE pilot flung from his exploding ship.

Stofsk wrote:

VT-16 wrote:Most of us know about the easter egg put into the speeder chase in AOTC (The X-Wing being chased by Vader´s TIE and two escort TIEs),

I have not seen what you refer to. Everytime I see that scene, the sfx guys insist that if you look (vaguely at some point in a great sea of airborne objects) you'll find an x-wing and three TIEs. I look, can't find them, then decide to watch the rest of the fucking movie.

the same exact thing for me. After i watched my OT DVD's i said, ill give it one more shot, skipped to that scene that supposedly has the Xs and Ts and still cant see it. i got frustrated after the 15th time and watched the movie

i asked before but dose anyone have an enlarged picture of the scene with the X-wings and Ties in AOTC?

TFN had a pic of it on the Ep. II easter egg page for years, but now I can´t find it. Great, TFN, one of the few times you could actually be useful and your page is down. -___-

Still searching, though, I thought I saw it just a few days ago.

Found a pic:

http://img99.exs.cx/img99/7580/X-wingATOC1.png

In the red circle, a T shaped craft (seen from above) and three TIEs.

If they are there, and they are an easter egg, how does that help the Z95? They're TIEs and an Xwing. Fuck Z95s. Fuck them and the EU they rode in on.

Because they´re only viewed from above and the X-Wing ain´t supposed to come out for many years, we can extrapolate what the craft is. And with that shape, seen from above, it´s most likely a Z-95 (in-universe explanation) and Republic TIEs (or T.I.E.s or whatever).

Stark wrote:If they are there, and they are an easter egg, how does that help the Z95? They're TIEs and an Xwing. Fuck Z95s. Fuck them and the EU they rode in on.

I said it before. I'll say it again. The Z-95 pwnzors j00.

Can´t we all be friends and let the good folks at Incom develop both fighters?

The good folks at Incom do build both ships

anyways wheres the pic. It took me 7 years to get a widescreen version of ESB to see the thrown out Tie pilot i dont want it to be 2008 when i see the Xs and Ts

VT posted one up above about an hour ago.

The good folks at Incom do build both ships

Which is what I was trying to get across, there can be room for both ARCs and Headhunters.

Rogue 9 wrote:I said it before. I'll say it again. The Z-95 pwnzors j00.

Ph34R WW2 divebomber clone fighter = t3h k1ng. Z95, premier clonewars fighter? Deary, deary deary me. I'd rather a fricking Naboo fighter, and its a razor with guns.

EDIT - Erm, . Noones really got anything against ole Zoots.

I just saw the BTH picture of the ARC 170. It's one heavy mutha. Much better than that useless Z-95 toy.

Vympel wrote:I just saw the BTH picture of the ARC 170. It's one heavy mutha. Much better than that useless Z-95 toy.

Bah. I'll still kick that sucker's ass from a Z-95. Guns ain't everything.

You don't even know how the ARC-170 performs, you little whore.