Hyperspace is apparently more B5 like than thought

[His Divine Shadow]

The current view on hyperspace is a realm where you go fast fast faster than light all the time relative to the real universe, or so it has seemed to me, there is no sitting still in hyperspace like B5 hyperspace, this might be wrong and there could be such a thing for SW hyperspacer, observe:

Imperial CompLink:
When the New Order was declared, there arose an ambitious group of scientists eager to free research from the parochial power struggles which typified the latter days of the Old Republic. They proposed a vast computer network connected to the HoloNets, giving scientists on any of millions of worlds instant access to information vital to their research. These scientists designed and wrote much of the software necessary to support such a system, presenting the entire package to Palpatine and his advisors.

The idea was rejected, ostensibly for the tremendous additional funds needed to upgrade the HoloNet to handle the increased flow of information. The costs were real, and Palpatine needed the tens of trillions of credits elsewhere, but he also feared a system which would allow such an instantaneous and complete exchange of information between citizens of the New Order.

Imperial Intelligence managed to retrieve almost all of the documentation and software, and recruited a number of the scientists who proposed the Imperial CompLink. Using the PDVs and Plexus conduits to link the computers, rather than HoloNet technology, reduced the costs more than ten thousandfold. The prospect of having access to every computer bank in the galaxy, with the nearly inconceivable wealth of information such a system would provide, was too tempting to ignore.

With the help of system cells throughout the galaxy, as well as a massive effort by virtually every talented individual within Tech, the necessary software was installed in computer networks in hundreds of sectors. Still, less than six percent of the planetary networks had been tapped; many of the rest had security which was too difficult to penetrate to make it worth the risk.

The Ubiqtorate considered cancelling the project as too expensive for the benefits it accrued. It was then that a Plexus technician, Geothrav Camber, sent Dr.Lindu Sencker a series of scandocs with preliminary specifications for a new eavesdropping device which would circumvent the security systems in virtually every computer system in existence. Sencker?s team conquered the formidable theoretical and technical problems poised by Camber?s plan. A prototype of the device was built in time for an effective demonstration for the Ubiqtorate by stealing several files from the computers of the Imperial Security Bureau.

With this device, the Hyperspace Orbiting Scanner (HOS), Imperial Intelligence has been able to tap into the computer networks on more than 470,000 worlds, and the number is increasing every day.

Left in hyperspace orbit around a planet, the HOS sensors do not pick up the signals from the computer directly. They monitor the hyperspace shadows left by streaking particles inside a computer.

Careful and systematic matching of the shadows of known computer languages to the shadows produced by the target system have produced data which is better than 78 percent reliable. Imperial science is not likely to produce an improvement over this phenomenal performance any time in the near future.

(ref: Imperial Sourcebook)

A probe in hyperspace can orbit a planet.

[NecronLord]

fascinating.

When they shoot the guy out in the escape pod at the end of Black Fleet Crisis, is the ship standing still?

[His Divine Shadow]

fascinating.

When they shoot the guy out in the escape pod at the end of Black Fleet Crisis, is the ship standing still?

Possibly, it's not mentioned, I doubt it matters too wheter they are moving or not.

[Warspite]

According to Major Sil Sorannan, who once worked for a military research team in experimental hyperphysics, objects released in hyperspace always remain in hyperspace. To return from hyperspace requires the use of a hyperdrive.

Hyperspace Orbiting Scanners.
Hyperspace Orbiting Scanners were developed and employed by Imperial Intelligence to eavesdrop on communications and information within all of the computer systems of a given planet. The HOS remains in hyperspace where it is virtually undetectable, moving in a hyperspace orbit around the planet's mass shadow. This cannot be an orbit in exactly the same sense as a free realspace orbit because objects in hyperspace are always moving faster than lightspeed. However in the absence of specific information about the characteristics of this kind of motion we cannot tell whether it is a free but curved trajectory or whether active propulsive power is needed to maintain it.

Scanners mounted on the orbitter somehow track the shadows of the elementary particles moving within the computers below. These signals are matched to the patterns of common communications standards and computer languages to yield translated files which are said to be 78% accurate. The nature of the scanning process has not been divulged; all that is known at this time is that realspace particles leave an influence which is potentially detectible over planetary distance scales, and that the information thus obtained is sufficient to reconstruct a three-dimensional time-varying model of the computer system's interior. It is possible that the HOS scanning mechanism involves the emission of hyperwaves from the orbiter, scattering off the target and reabsorption at the scanner.

A HOS is not equipped with a hyperdrive. It remains freely in hyperspace but cannot enter or exit without the assistance of a hyperdrive-capable vessel. A droid-crewed Imperial Intelligence courier ship known as a Plexus Droid Vessel (PDV) enters hyperspace in the known vicinity of the HOS orbit and performs a systematic search, which can take several hours. The tiny size of the HOS and the dominance of the background mass shadows of the nearby planet, its gravity well, starships and other bodies in the region make the calculation of a successful jump to dock with the HOS all but impossible without the high astrogation skills of the PDV droid crew and foreknowledge of the HOS location. Once locked onto the HOS, the PDV returns to realspace in order to download the accumulated data and perform necessary maintenance. The PDV then jumps past lightspeed again and deposits the HOS in its proper superluminal trajectory.

All for Technical Comentaries.

[Warspite]

Damn! Meant:

All extracts FROM Technical Commentaries.

[His Divine Shadow]

What tech commentaries?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Curtis Saxton's Star Wars Technical Commentaries.

[Spartan]

His Divine Shadow wrote:

The current view on hyperspace is a realm where you go fast fast faster than light all the time relative to the real universe, or so it has seemed to me, there is no sitting still in hyperspace like B5 hyperspace, this might be wrong and there could be such a thing for SW hyperspacer, observe:

Not really. Think of it this way, if hyperspace is just tachyonic movement like Doc. Saxton suggests it makes perfect sense that you should be able to orbit hyperspace. Remember you stay in HS until you choose to exit it. Orbiting is also support by the fact that: you can change course in HS (ref: Dark Empire), and that ships can and do fly twisted couses in hyperspace (ref: The Courtship of Princess Leia).

I recall that Lord Poe suggested once that an ISD could attack a fed colony and then orbit it in hyperspace, and wait for the Fed response.

One has to wonder how fast that scanner is orbiting though.

[Isil`Zha]

The current view on hyperspace is a realm where you go fast fast faster than light all the time relative to the real universe, or so it has seemed to me, there is no sitting still in hyperspace like B5 hyperspace, this might be wrong and there could be such a thing for SW hyperspacer, observe:

Imperial CompLink:
When the New Order was declared, there arose an ambitious group of scientists eager to free research from the parochial power struggles which typified the latter days of the Old Republic. They proposed a vast computer network connected to the HoloNets, giving scientists on any of millions of worlds instant access to information vital to their research. These scientists designed and wrote much of the software necessary to support such a system, presenting the entire package to Palpatine and his advisors.

The idea was rejected, ostensibly for the tremendous additional funds needed to upgrade the HoloNet to handle the increased flow of information. The costs were real, and Palpatine needed the tens of trillions of credits elsewhere, but he also feared a system which would allow such an instantaneous and complete exchange of information between citizens of the New Order.

Imperial Intelligence managed to retrieve almost all of the documentation and software, and recruited a number of the scientists who proposed the Imperial CompLink. Using the PDVs and Plexus conduits to link the computers, rather than HoloNet technology, reduced the costs more than ten thousandfold. The prospect of having access to every computer bank in the galaxy, with the nearly inconceivable wealth of information such a system would provide, was too tempting to ignore.

With the help of system cells throughout the galaxy, as well as a massive effort by virtually every talented individual within Tech, the necessary software was installed in computer networks in hundreds of sectors. Still, less than six percent of the planetary networks had been tapped; many of the rest had security which was too difficult to penetrate to make it worth the risk.

The Ubiqtorate considered cancelling the project as too expensive for the benefits it accrued. It was then that a Plexus technician, Geothrav Camber, sent Dr.Lindu Sencker a series of scandocs with preliminary specifications for a new eavesdropping device which would circumvent the security systems in virtually every computer system in existence. Sencker?s team conquered the formidable theoretical and technical problems poised by Camber?s plan. A prototype of the device was built in time for an effective demonstration for the Ubiqtorate by stealing several files from the computers of the Imperial Security Bureau.

With this device, the Hyperspace Orbiting Scanner (HOS), Imperial Intelligence has been able to tap into the computer networks on more than 470,000 worlds, and the number is increasing every day.

Left in hyperspace orbit around a planet, the HOS sensors do not pick up the signals from the computer directly. They monitor the hyperspace shadows left by streaking particles inside a computer.

Careful and systematic matching of the shadows of known computer languages to the shadows produced by the target system have produced data which is better than 78 percent reliable. Imperial science is not likely to produce an improvement over this phenomenal performance any time in the near future.

(ref: Imperial Sourcebook)

A probe in hyperspace can orbit a planet.

Of course, with SW hyperspace we know you can still crash into planets and such (as stated by Han in ANH), as though they're only half phased out of real space or something.. *shrug*

[His Divine Shadow]

No, the gravity shadow pulls the ship out and thats why it hits objects.

[Mr Bean]

as though they're only half phased out of real space or something.. *shrug*

No, the gravity shadow pulls the ship out and thats why it hits objects.

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To be exact fokes the Gravity Shadow actives the CUTOFF on Hyperdrive Engines toss them back into Normal Space and if done ot late, tossing them back into Realspace and into a Soild object

Its a safty thing, Ships are pulled out BECAUSE Strong Gravitational Signtures do not PREVENT Hyperspace travel, They cause it to become increably diffcult So much to the point that it causes the Hyperdrives to melt down and EXPOLDE

Never a good thing when the system next to your collant and control system overheats expoldes and melts everything around it prehaps cause the engine to overheat and go boom, a much more powerful expolsion

The Normal 1G Gravity of a Earth Type Planet puts enough stress on ships that the Engine overheat

The comparsion can be made to a car trying to drive through Mud Or better yet emerging from a paved smooth Highway into grass and 6 inchs of Mud while doing 70 miles per hour

[SPOOFE]

A probe in hyperspace can orbit a planet.

Ah, but if it's "orbiting", it's not "standing still", is it?

No, the gravity shadow pulls the ship out and thats why it hits objects.

Actually, if the safety cutoff switches on the hyperdrive didn't detect and automatically remove the ship from hyperspace, the gravity shadow would, indeed, destroy the object.

[Warspite]

A probe in hyperspace can orbit a planet.

Ah, but if it's "orbiting", it's not "standing still", is it?

No, the gravity shadow pulls the ship out and thats why it hits objects.

Actually, if the safety cutoff switches on the hyperdrive didn't detect and automatically remove the ship from hyperspace, the gravity shadow would, indeed, destroy the object.

Standing still in realtion to what? Orbiting can mean a geosynchronos orbit, or geostationary. But, on what frame of reference?

[nightmare]

There's also the HIMS device (Hyperwave Inertial Momentum Sustainer).

(Assault at Selonia)

I'll give you the text from the encyclopedia:

"abbreviated HIMS, this device was developed on Bakura. In its simplest form, this is a specially-built hyperspace coil which shuts itself on and off. When the device detects an interdiction field or other false mass-line in hyperspace, it cuts the hyperdrive off, dropping the ship out of hyperspace. Immediately, a static hyperwave bubble generator in-line with the HIMS ignites, surrounding the ship with a hyperspace bubble. The bubble does not provide thrust, just a way of passing through the interdiction field. Thus, the ship coasts inside the bubble until it can no longer sustain istelf. When the bubble fails, the hyperspace comes on long enough to register the existence of the interdiction field, then trips again. If enough hyperspace buble generators are linked to the hyperspace coil, the ship can drift deep into the interdiction field, popping bubbles as it goes. The ship will appear to flicker in and out of hyperspace. The momentum of the ship will slowly diminish until it cannot jump back to hyperspace. At this time, the HIMS can be shut down, and sublight engines must be used."

[Mr Bean]

Actually, if the safety cutoff switches on the hyperdrive didn't detect and automatically remove the ship from hyperspace, the gravity shadow would, indeed, destroy the object.

Corellian Series, the NRA Agent Jumps within the mass shadow of a Planet and survies infact by all indcaits she traveled THROUGH or nearly so through the planet considering she was facing it and emerged on the other side by her own words nearly 180 from where she had arrived, Her drives where melted and she nearly died but she did it

[Moonshadow]

The comparsion can be made to a car trying to drive through Mud Or better yet emerging from a paved smooth Highway into grass and 6 inchs of Mud while doing 70 miles per hour

that would only slow the car down( if of course the car maintains control). The only way it would overheat and blow the cars engine is if cruise control isn't dis-engaged in time. If cruise is on, the cars computer would over-rev the engine trying to maintain speed and the motor would likely throw a rod. ( assuming the speed is 70 mph and the car has the average run of the mill 4-cyl)

Of course the difference in traction would most likely throw the car out of control and might make the car flip.( destroying the car)