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Number 6 wrote: I know this is going to sound a bit off-the-wall, but this rumor/interpretation has apparently been going around in the gay community for quite a long time, and I just became aware of this forum as a place where I might ask about it. Recently, I’ve been making plans to teach A New Hope in a literature and film course (I teach college English), and I was told by a gay colleague that I should let students know about the veiled references to a homosexual relationship in the cantina scene between Han Solo and Greedo, and the fact that it’s more than likely that the argument between Greedo and Solo went beyond Solo’s fight with Jabba, and was actually the final argument in a lover’s tiff.

First of all, Greedo’s mouth was apparently designed to suggest a “pocket pussy,” and I have to admit, it certainly does look like one. Greedo’s orifice opens wide and invitingly at the precise moment he says “If you give it to me, I might forget I found you,” suggesting that Greedo would be willing to exchange oral favors with Solo in return for letting him make the trip to Alderaan to get Jabba’s money. For a few years after the release of the film, a blowjob was often referred to as “getting a Greedo” among the gay community.

Greedo’s accusation to Solo about smugglers who drop their shipment plays on 70s slang in the homosexual community—smuggling a shipment referring to anal sex. When a smuggler “drops his shipment,” it means he’s left (or cheated on) his anal partner. Solo’s reply, “Even I get boarded sometimes” is a reference to the fact that he has been smuggling something other than Greedo’s member, hence Greedo’s anger.

Even the Huttese language that Greedo speaks contains veiled references to homosexuality. In the New York gay community—specifically the patrons of Studio 54—the brand name Frito-Lay had somehow gotten corrupted to the phrase “Peter-Lay,” obviously referring to gay sex. My colleague wasn’t sure what the exact origin of this phrase was—like the Cosmopolitan, many people claim to have invented it—but when Greedo says “Song pich aley,” he actually pronounces it like “Peter-Lay,” and this was apparently deliberate on the part of the voice-over actor, as he was instructed to say the words “Peter-Lay.” Also, “eating a bag of Fritos” was a term for what’s now called “tea bagging.” Weird.

This was also the reason why Solo was so uninterested in Leia as a beautiful princess in A New Hope—he just wasn’t interested in women. When Han says to Luke, “I don’t know . . . what do you think? Do you think a princess, and a guy like me . . .” it’s a veiled reference to his homosexuality, and apparently got a big laugh from gay audience members.

Now I’m not a big fan of the “queering” of literature and film, but my colleague seems to have most of his ducks in a row, and another gay colleague knew instantly what he was talking about, and started describing the same things to me. Since then, I have emailed several gay colleagues at other institutions, and all say that they are aware of the theory and that they are surprised it has not gained more credence in readings of A New Hope.

This was apparently deliberate on the part of Lucas, who included the references in an attempt to deliver a pro-gay message that would go over the heads of the studio but still reach its intended audience. But, not long after the release of the A New Hope, Lucas became more family oriented in his outlook, and denied the rumors, chalking it up to odd coincidence, and arguing that he had always intended Han and Leia to get together, when it’s pretty clear that Luke and Leia were intended for one another in the original plan. For some reason, the gay community has given him a pass, and left it alone, but recent setbacks in the gay rights movement have apparently changed some minds.

Look to hear more of this in the future, I guess, particularly as some of the queer theorists in film studies are trying to get corroboration from the original crew. What do you all think?

Winston Blake wrote:Well, put it this way: would you rather fuck a female Rodian or be sodomised by a male one?

Gorefiend wrote:Greedo is speaking rodian btw.

Lord Poe wrote:You're kidding with this, right?

Gorefiend wrote:they are not in hutt space ;P Tatooine was imp space by ep 4
but your right Greedo might really been speaking huttese, I think it was rodian

Ghost Rider wrote:All in all..sad, sad article. I might as well claimed Lucas was against the Black Man because of Darth Vader.

Stofsk wrote:

Ghost Rider wrote:All in all..sad, sad article. I might as well claimed Lucas was against the Black Man because of Darth Vader.

It's not that bad. It adds a new facet of Han's character.

"I'm a xenosexual. I fuck anything. Male, female, tentacle..."

Winston Blake wrote:Well, put it this way: would you rather fuck a female Rodian or be sodomised by a male one?

Stofsk wrote:

Ghost Rider wrote:All in all..sad, sad article. I might as well claimed Lucas was against the Black Man because of Darth Vader.

It's not that bad. It adds a new facet of Han's character.

"I'm a xenosexual. I fuck anything. Male, female, tentacle..."

Ghost Rider wrote:Well in that aspect sure. Makes you wonder about those cold lonely nights with only Chewbacca.

Pcm979 wrote:The truth on why Han puts his hand underneath the table is revealed: He wasn't aiming his pistol; He was unsheathing Mr. Happy!

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:

Pcm979 wrote:The truth on why Han puts his hand underneath the table is revealed: He wasn't aiming his pistol; He was unsheathing Mr. Happy!

Now all we need is Star Wars DVD Twisted Edition, with a new revision on Han-Greedo cantina scene where Han, hand underneath the table, shaking his penis furiously (with a furious expression, teeth gritting, etc, ala Indiana Jones) then shoot a massive amount of semen right up to Greedo's face. Then Greedo falls dead to the floor due to asphyxation.

Lord Revan wrote:

Gorefiend wrote:Greedo is speaking rodian btw.

No he speaks hutteese like everybody else in Hutt space.

Winston Blake wrote:Well, put it this way: would you rather fuck a female Rodian or be sodomised by a male one?




....you know SD.net is probably the only place where anyone would say something like this.

Ghost Rider wrote: Well in that aspect sure. Makes you wonder about those cold lonely nights with only Chewbacca.