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With all the advanced computers, automations and droids available in the Star Wars galaxy why do Star Destroyers need so many crews (about 37500 IIRC) ?

humans are unpredictable. one computer can predict another.

The Shadow wrote:With all the advanced computers, automations and droids available in the Star Wars galaxy why do Star Destroyers need so many crews (about 37500 IIRC) ?

A modern day CVN has over a thousand crew members. A SD with a crew of 37 thousand is a bargin. Goes to show you how much all those droids actually do.

Enforcer Talen wrote:humans are unpredictable. one computer can predict another.

Huh? Do you mean as far as combat manuevers and tactics or do you also mean in regards to overall management of the ship's systems? Because that's what I think The Shadow is talking about, why the ship needs so many crew members to run the ship.

Knife wrote:

The Shadow wrote:With all the advanced computers, automations and droids available in the Star Wars galaxy why do Star Destroyers need so many crews (about 37500 IIRC) ?

A modern day CVN has over a thousand crew members. A SD with a crew of 37 thousand is a bargin. Goes to show you how much all those droids actually do.

A modern Nimitz-class CVN has a crew knocking on FIVE thousand including the air group So 37,000+ isn't that unrealistic for a 1600 metre durasteel monster

Burak Gazan wrote:

A modern Nimitz-class CVN has a crew knocking on FIVE thousand including the air group So 37,000+ isn't that unrealistic for a 1600 metre durasteel monster

I was trying to dismiss the air group. Still, you're right, the basic crew is in excess of a thousand.

As I know the air group is around 2,000, the other nearly 4,000 is for the ship. However, the 37,500 seems to be really high, since the droids can do nearly anything a human could and humans without computers can do basicly nothing ... (Maybe they are solely there to restart systems after an ion hit )
Who says that a computer is predictable has surely not worked with Windows for years!

But Star Destroyers carry enough stormtroopers to enable it to pacify an entire (small) star system by itself....anyone have a precise figure?

kheegan wrote:But Star Destroyers carry enough stormtroopers to enable it to pacify an entire (small) star system by itself....anyone have a precise figure?

9700

That little for a system? I don't think that would even be enough for a planet.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:That little for a system? I don't think that would even be enough for a planet.

That's where confining your assault to a key strategic area like say, the capital, AT-STs and AT-ATs and fire support from TIE Fighters, Bombers and the mothership come in. That would be sufficient to take a planet on the ass end of space like Tattooine with very few losses.

And in the case of planets where that's not really enough, that's what the other 24,999 ISDs are for.

SCVN 2812 wrote:

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:That little for a system? I don't think that would even be enough for a planet.

That's where confining your assault to a key strategic area like say, the capital, AT-STs and AT-ATs and fire support from TIE Fighters, Bombers and the mothership come in. That would be sufficient to take a planet on the ass end of space like Tattooine with very few losses.

And in the case of planets where that's not really enough, that's what the other 24,999 ISDs are for.

you think that there are only 25000 Star Destroyers in the Imperial Navy?

That is the official low-end number. Everything else is speculation.

Also, remember.. after the Dark Fleet fiasco, the galaxy stopped trying to make everything super-automated. After losing a whole fleet that way, who could blame them?

Did anyone discuss the possibility that the 25,000 ISDs may have been just the total number of Star Destroyers available for task forces? I'm sure a lot of Star Destroyers could not be withdrawn from their assigned sector fleets, as Zahn pointed out in the HOTD, how much of the Empire's fleet was just tied up enforcing order and stability.

Of course. However, as I just said, that is our speculation only.

Lord Pounder wrote:

SCVN 2812 wrote:

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:That little for a system? I don't think that would even be enough for a planet.

That's where confining your assault to a key strategic area like say, the capital, AT-STs and AT-ATs and fire support from TIE Fighters, Bombers and the mothership come in. That would be sufficient to take a planet on the ass end of space like Tattooine with very few losses.

And in the case of planets where that's not really enough, that's what the other 24,999 ISDs are for.

you think that there are only 25000 Star Destroyers in the Imperial Navy?

Oh piss off, I'm not going to waste my time hunting for one of the 100k+ ISD figure threads when I can use an official number right off the top of my head without having to answer 10 page debate inciting questions about where I got the number.

Knife wrote:

Burak Gazan wrote:

A modern Nimitz-class CVN has a crew knocking on FIVE thousand including the air group So 37,000+ isn't that unrealistic for a 1600 metre durasteel monster

I was trying to dismiss the air group. Still, you're right, the basic crew is in excess of a thousand.

And don't forget that the ISDs are actually meant to go mano a mano with other capital ships, whereas CVNs are meant not really designed for actual combat in itself, so it makes sense that ISDs have greater manpower redundancy, especially in the light of the existence of ion cannons.

Wouldn't it be better to compare it to say.. what the modern day battleship average complement was?

Darth Bowser wrote:Wouldn't it be better to compare it to say.. what the modern day battleship average complement was?

Well, there are no modern battleships today, but taking one of the last to be be decommissioned, say, the USS Missouri, she had a complement of 1,921 crew and was 271 meters long.

among 9700 stormtroopers, there are thousands of regional army members, including AT-AT, AT-ST's gunners and drivers and such shit. also, there most be a damn lot of gunners and engineers on such a ship, TIE-pilots and all theirs crews and and and...

Lex wrote:among 9700 stormtroopers, there are thousands of regional army members, including AT-AT, AT-ST's gunners and drivers and such shit. also, there most be a damn lot of gunners and engineers on such a ship, TIE-pilots and all theirs crews and and and...

Exactly. You could probably take over 15,000 men away from the 37,000 figure who aren't actual crewmen, which would give you more or less 22,000 actual crew.