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One thing that I've wondered about is how the ships used in Rebellion fit into the overall EU, as they aren't mentioned often, if at all, in the various novels and stories. How would this work?

I don't see too much of a problem with the general design of them (the starts are something else...how do you fit 72 fighters into that Liberator deal?)...except the Godawful Bulwark Battlecruiser. Eeeyuck.

Back to the topic at hand: I always kinda figured the Dauntless could be a Mon Cal design of some sort. And the Assault Frigate was mentioned in Isard's Revenge and possibly somewhere else as well (though IIRC the description didn't match the "new and improved" Dreadnaught of the game). Correllian Gunships are in the EU as well I believe, as are the Alliance Escort Carriers (aka Quasar Fire carriers). The Imperial carriers are from XvT (at least that's the first I came across them), not sure if there's been a good description of them in the EU or not. I have never heard of the CC-7700 or CC-9600 Frigates outside of that game. Star Galleaons were mentioned in Dark Force Rising and I suppose the Galleaon could just be an older version of that, though I never heard of it in the EU. The Bulk Frigate is the Modular Action IV or whatever that thing is, it's in the EGTVV.

Aw fuck it, lemme try to make a list:

• Rebels
• Correllian Corvette - EU and the movies
• Mon Cal Cruiser - EU and the movies
• Nebulon-B Frigate - EU and the movies
• Alliance Dreadnaught - EU
• Alliance Escort Carrier - EU (Quasar Fire)
• Assault Frigate - EU (mentioned in Isard's Revenge, but I think the description is different)
• Bulk Cruiser - EU and movies (well, they mention Bulk Cruisers, but AFAIK there's no real description to match the one we see in the game)
• Bulwark Battlecruiser - SWR only (For the love of God I hope I never see the flying half-whale anywhere else)
• Bulk Transport - EU (it's the Modular Action IV Transport, aka the Wild Karrde)
• Correllian Gunship - Not too sure, I think they're in the EU though
• CC-9600 Frigate - SWR only
• CC-7700 Frigate - SWR only
• Dauntless Frigate - SWR only (never seen in EU, but I guess it could be a Mon Cal design of some sort)
• Liberator Cruiser - SWR only
• Medium Transport - EU and movies (remember the Hoth transports? These are them)
• X-wing - If you need to ask you are not a Star Wars fan
• Y-wing - If you need to ask you are not a Star Wars fan
• A-wing - EU and movies
• B-wing - EU and movies
  
  Empire
• Assault Transport - EU (also in games, though I don't recall this particular design before)
• Carrack light Cruiser - EU
• Imperial Dreadnaught - EU (basically the same thing as the Alliance version)
• Death Star - If you need to ask you are not a Star Wars fan
• Imperial Escort Carrier - LA Games only (AFAIK, I've never heard of this particular "carrier egg" design before)
• Galleon - SWR only (AFAIK, though it could be the younger brother of the EU Star Galleon)
• Interdictor Cruiser - EU
• Lancer Frigate - EU
• Star Galleon - EU (mentioned in Dark Force Rising)
• Imperial Star Destroyer - If you need to ask you are not a Star Wars fan
• Imperial Star Destroyer II - If you need to ask you are not a Star Wars fan
• Super Star Destroyer - If you need to ask you are not a Star Wars fan
• Strike Cruiser - EU
• TIE Fighter - if you need to ask you are not a star wars fan
• TIE Interceptor - EU and movies
• TIE Bomber - EU and movies
• TIE Defender - EU
• Victory Star Destroyer - EU
• Victory Star Destroyer II - EU

There you go. This is to the best of my knowledge.

RogueIce wrote:
[*]Bulk Cruiser - EU and movies (well, they mention Bulk Cruisers, but AFAIK there's no real description to match the one we see in the game)

if you have the DVD you can also see one at the battle of endor

wautd wrote:

RogueIce wrote:
[*]Bulk Cruiser - EU and movies (well, they mention Bulk Cruisers, but AFAIK there's no real description to match the one we see in the game)

if you have the DVD you can also see one at the battle of endor

Does that make that SWR design canon then?

Thanks, that helps. The Bulwark was a strange looking design indeed.

I believe the Assault Frigate also appeared in Darksaber, I think it was part of one of the ships that were sent to intercept the superweapon.

The Assault Frigate was in Heir to the Empire.

The Assault Frigate was also seen in The Thrawn books/comics.
(crap you beat me to it)

wautd wrote:

RogueIce wrote:
[*]Bulk Cruiser - EU and movies (well, they mention Bulk Cruisers, but AFAIK there's no real description to match the one we see in the game)

if you have the DVD you can also see one at the battle of endor

Oooh, which scene?

The assault frigates are detailed in the Rebel Alliance Sourcebook, Second Edition, and were mentioned in Heir to the Empire in the first scene of the novel. The Imperial escort carriers are a KDY design featured in the Imperial Sourcebook, Second Edition, as are the Star Galleon-class frigate. The CC-7700 interdictor frigate is mentioned in passing in The Essential Chronology as part of the last known appearance of the incompetent FADM Daala (p. 137), and is naturally mentioned again in Daala's biography in The New Essential Guide to Characters.

PUBLIUS

VT-16 wrote:

wautd wrote:

RogueIce wrote:
[*]Bulk Cruiser - EU and movies (well, they mention Bulk Cruisers, but AFAIK there's no real description to match the one we see in the game)

if you have the DVD you can also see one at the battle of endor

Oooh, which scene?

IIRC (cant check right now, a friend got them right now):
in the beginning of the scene when the falcon followed by rebels fighters do a flyby next to the capships and go to warp to endor. It'll go fast but if you skip frame by frame you can see it somewhere in the left.

Assault Frigates were in Heir to the Empire and in Darksaber. Wedge Antilles commanded an Assault frigate IRC during the wargames with Admiral Ackbar.

Corellian Gunships I believe are mentioned in the Truce at Bakura

I always used the Dauntless and Bulwarks as replacements for the larger Mon Cal ships. I dont like how SWR treated the Mon Cal Cruiser, so I make a Dauntless and Call it Home One. Bulwarks too expensive for my tastes, much rather have a dozen dreadnaughts or something like that.

Imperial Star Destroyer II - If you need to ask you are not a Star Wars fan

Isn't that a little Harsh? Sure everyone knows ISDs but cusual might not know there's more than one version. It's not excatly blatantly obvious.

Isn't that a little Harsh? Sure everyone knows ISDs but cusual might not know there's more than one version. It's not excatly blatantly obvious.

Yeah, they all look the same.

CC-7700 or CC-9600 Are mentioned in the Corrilian trilogy, I believe. the interdictors were used at least i beleive, but I'm not sure

Isolder74 wrote:CC-7700 or CC-9600 Are mentioned in the Corrilian trilogy, I believe. the interdictors were used at least i beleive, but I'm not sure

Not that I'm aware of. The CC-7700 and CC-9600 are Rebellion-specific designs, insofar as I am aware.

Connor MacLeod wrote:

Isolder74 wrote:CC-7700 or CC-9600 Are mentioned in the Corrilian trilogy, I believe. the interdictors were used at least i beleive, but I'm not sure

Not that I'm aware of. The CC-7700 and CC-9600 are Rebellion-specific designs, insofar as I am aware.

The Corrielian faction uses some kind of interditor ship the model is not mentioned

wautd wrote:if you have the DVD you can also see (a Bulk Cruiser) at the battle of endor

There's no indication to my knowledge that that's what that ship is. It could easily be a Calamari design.

Wicked Pilot wrote:

wautd wrote:if you have the DVD you can also see (a Bulk Cruiser) at the battle of endor

There's no indication to my knowledge that that's what that ship is. It could easily be a Calamari design.

*shrug* In this sort of case, we could say the design of the ship is official/canon/whatever, but we don't know the actual name of it. We could assume it's the same, but we don't know for sure.

Sort of like why I wavered on the Bulk Cruiser and Assault Frigate being in the EU and stuff. They're mentioned in other sources, but as to that particular design being the same is not so sure (though if Publius is right, the Assault Frigate is imaged in at least one source, right?).

Well what's certain is that the ship in ROTJ does not match the Bulk Cruiser as presented in the other sources. The Bulk Cruiser has a very destinctive nose different from that in the film, and it's porportions aren't as slender.

From what I've heard, and I don't remember from where, there were other Calamari models made for the film, but for whatever reason they were not able to be used up close. I suspect at least that ship, and possible one of the others, are of such design.

And damnit why are there no photos of these models? They've got to exist somewhere. With all the crappy EU and game designs being turned out a new canon class from the origional source would be appreciated.

Isolder74 wrote:

Connor MacLeod wrote:

Isolder74 wrote:CC-7700 or CC-9600 Are mentioned in the Corrilian trilogy, I believe. the interdictors were used at least i beleive, but I'm not sure

Not that I'm aware of. The CC-7700 and CC-9600 are Rebellion-specific designs, insofar as I am aware.

The Corrielian faction uses some kind of interditor ship the model is not mentioned

They had centerpoint station generating an interdiction field far more massive than the system itself.

Wicked Pilot wrote:And damnit why are there no photos of these models? They've got to exist somewhere. With all the crappy EU and game designs being turned out a new canon class from the origional source would be appreciated.

This page has pics of all the ships in the game. And also the game stats and their encyclopedia entry if you're interested.

EDIT: Tag fixed.

Oh, and the encyclopedia entires seem to be cut off if they're too long. Oh well, you can click on the Encylopedia link in the left menu bar if you want to see the whole thing (but no pics).

Here's a better XWA shot of the Bulk Cruiser. As you can see the split in the nose disqualifies it from being in the movies.

And man do those Rebellion ships suck. They're just plain ugly, not beautiful ugly like the Nebulon-B, but ugly ugly.

RogueIce wrote:

Wicked Pilot wrote:And damnit why are there no photos of these models? They've got to exist somewhere. With all the crappy EU and game designs being turned out a new canon class from the origional source would be appreciated.

This page has pics of all the ships in the game. And also the game stats and their encyclopedia entry if you're interested.

I think he was referring to models used in the films, I too would like to see some light shed on those.

RogueIce wrote:

Wicked Pilot wrote:

wautd wrote:if you have the DVD you can also see (a Bulk Cruiser) at the battle of endor

There's no indication to my knowledge that that's what that ship is. It could easily be a Calamari design.

*shrug* In this sort of case, we could say the design of the ship is official/canon/whatever, but we don't know the actual name of it. We could assume it's the same, but we don't know for sure.

Sort of like why I wavered on the Bulk Cruiser and Assault Frigate being in the EU and stuff. They're mentioned in other sources, but as to that particular design being the same is not so sure (though if Publius is right, the Assault Frigate is imaged in at least one source, right?).

The Assault Frigate design is the same as the one in both the EGVV and XWA. The bulk cruiser is different, though, and I believe it is the Battle Horn-class. The one seen in XWA is the Neutron Star-class.