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RTS

Posted: 2005-02-17 01:45am
by Locutus_8472
Does anyone know of a single decent RTS game for Star Wars?

The only even half-way decent one I have seen is Warlords MOD for Homeworld 2. I mean 3-D, can actually move ships.

Posted: 2005-02-17 01:48am
by WarScarab
Well, if you don't mind an Age of Empires clone, then Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds would probably be a fine choice for a SW RTS game.

Posted: 2005-02-17 02:32am
by Fire Fly
Star Wars doesn't have many RTS games. The only stratetgy games that Star Wars has are:

Force Commander: this game was an ok play, innovative and different from many typical RTS games but it had poor path finding, unbalanced gameplay issues, and promised more than it could deliver. It didn't help, at the time, that you required a semi super computer to play this game. The biggest issue that many players had with the game was the Command Points; you usually couldn't get enough of them and for the Rebels, since they had crappier units, it was harder to kill Imperial units. If LucasArts did a Part Deux to this game using up to date technology, it would have potential to be a great game; I'm actually hoping they will since the ending to the game left it pretty wide open.

Star Wars Rebellion: this turn based strategy game was a rather fun game to play. It required enomourous micromanagement and had crappy visuals, but for some reason, once you got into the game, all of those issues could be overlooked. I remember staying up all night when I first started this game. Eventually, I had enough credits to build myself a Death Star and once I had cornered the Rebels in their last sector, I had a field day with the Death Star.

Battlegrounds: I never got into this game because it was nothing more than a Ages of Empire clone. I lacked the majesty and grandeur that one expects from Star Wars. Seeing a droideka half the size of an AT-AT quickly makes you think "dubya tee eff." I dunno, that's just me, several other people, however, enjoy this game.

That's all that Lucas Arts has in regards to strategy games. There will be a new one coming out this fall, I believe, entitled Empire at War which will be a RTS space/ground game. It has promising graphics and classical SW elements. This game has great potential and will be, I hope, the RTS game that many SW gamers have been waiting for so long all of these years.

Re: RTS

Posted: 2005-02-17 02:52am
by wautd
Locutus_8472 wrote:Does anyone know of a single decent RTS game for Star Wars?
No

But I have high expectations for the one that is coming out soon

Re: RTS

Posted: 2005-02-17 03:57am
by Mange
wautd wrote:
Locutus_8472 wrote:Does anyone know of a single decent RTS game for Star Wars?
No

But I have high expectations for the one that is coming out soon
Yes, Empire at War. It has got its own site now at LucasArts:

http://www.lucasarts.com/games/swempireatwar/

Posted: 2005-02-17 05:33am
by Fire Fly
I lacked the majesty and grandeur that one expects from Star Wars.
Oops....it should read "It lacked....."

damn library keyboard, the keys are harder than stale bread

Posted: 2005-02-17 05:51am
by VT-16
I heard EaW was going to contain some ROTS-elements as well (that will not be revealed yet). This, combined with the use of Imperial Acclamators in an OT-setting, will make for some fun blending of old and new SW. Might even go out and buy the damn thing. 8)

Posted: 2005-02-17 08:15am
by Stark
EaW doesn't impress me: the screens I've seen (with huge rebel tanks the size of AT-ATs, fighters crippling ISDs, and the presence of ground combat almost certainly scuppering orbital strikes) just suggest another RC-esque missed opportunity. Pretty, tho.

That HW2 starship game is good, too. Warlords, I think its called.

Posted: 2005-02-17 08:57am
by Lex
www.empireatwar.net

try that... i think it will rock, but SWGB:CC just ruled all

Posted: 2005-02-17 10:35am
by VT-16
Those Rebel tanks aren´t the size of AT-ATs, but I´m sure they´ll be effective against them, to some degree. And this is still a game in beta-mode.

From the last link:
These show large Imperial fleets - including the ageing Republic Assault Ship
If they´re in Imperial fleets they´re not Republic anymore, sillybuns. :P

Posted: 2005-02-17 11:03am
by InnocentBystander
Stark wrote:That HW2 starship game is good, too. Warlords, I think its called.
Warlords, they just came out with a new version, very fun! :) Requries more RAM than normal HW2 (or a HD that isn't 4200rpm...ugh)

edit: Right right, http:// is necessary to dress links :(

Posted: 2005-02-18 02:04am
by Cal Wright
Well, versus what almost everyone says on this board, if you get Battlegrounds with the Clone Campaigns, you can't go wrong. So what if it's like having an official Age of Empires Star Wars mod. The game fucking rocks. AoE rocked anyways. Which is why I differ from the board, I hate almost all of the old Star Wars games, and Rebellion is right there at the top of the list. I never liked it. I guess it depends on what you like though. I don't mind micro management, but I don't really care for turn based. Nothing like pounding your enemy with small forces on the front and then having simultaneous attacks all around.

Posted: 2005-02-18 03:50am
by Stark
Any game where R2 droids fuck trees for resources should be fucking banned. That is all.

Posted: 2005-02-18 04:00am
by Mange
Stark wrote:Any game where R2 droids fuck trees for resources should be fucking banned. That is all.
:lol: I've never seen it that way...

Posted: 2005-02-18 04:53am
by wautd
I remember playing the demo for Battlegrounds and I found it horrible. Crappy sound, horrible graphics (AT-ST firing :x ) and your average 12-in-a-dozen gameplay

Posted: 2005-02-18 11:23am
by Soulman
If you want a SW RTS buy Homeworld 2 and install the Warlord total conversion as others have mentioned. Although it only works with skirmish and multiplayer it is superb, far better than anything out of Lucasarts.

Posted: 2005-02-18 02:31pm
by Lex
Stark wrote:Any game where R2 droids fuck trees for resources should be fucking banned. That is all.
god just shut up.

cal was damn right, swgb just rocked. Age of Empires is certainly the best strategy game ever, and SWGB is the star wars version of it, and it owns all. just because the graphics arent best? at least its a game u can play, not like fucking suckin AoM or C&C: generals

Posted: 2005-02-18 03:40pm
by Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba
Lex wrote:
Stark wrote:Any game where R2 droids fuck trees for resources should be fucking banned. That is all.
god just shut up.

cal was damn right, swgb just rocked. Age of Empires is certainly the best strategy game ever, and SWGB is the star wars version of it, and it owns all. just because the graphics arent best? at least its a game u can play, not like fucking suckin AoM or C&C: generals
Gah, but I can't find any place that still sells it! :x

Posted: 2005-02-18 03:45pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Lex wrote:
Stark wrote:Any game where R2 droids fuck trees for resources should be fucking banned. That is all.
god just shut up.

cal was damn right, swgb just rocked. Age of Empires is certainly the best strategy game ever, and SWGB is the star wars version of it, and it owns all. just because the graphics arent best? at least its a game u can play, not like fucking suckin AoM or C&C: generals
Game Revolution (probably one of the best video game review sites online) gave the game a C, saying it felt more like an Age of Empires mod than an actual stand-alone game.

http://gr.bolt.com/games/pc/strategy/st ... rounds.htm

Posted: 2005-02-18 04:22pm
by Mange
Well, I've never played Age of Empires so it doesn't matter for me. Empire at War will however feature a newly designed game engine.

Re: RTS

Posted: 2005-02-18 11:24pm
by Tychu
wautd wrote:
Locutus_8472 wrote:Does anyone know of a single decent RTS game for Star Wars?
No

But I have high expectations for the one that is coming out soon
i hope Empire: At war comes to the consoles, im not a PC gamer i hate PC games

Re: RTS

Posted: 2005-02-19 10:18am
by Lord Pounder
Tychu wrote:
wautd wrote:
Locutus_8472 wrote:Does anyone know of a single decent RTS game for Star Wars?
No

But I have high expectations for the one that is coming out soon
i hope Empire: At war comes to the consoles, im not a PC gamer i hate PC games
RTS's aren't that good on consoles. Hard to point anc click with a joy pad.

Re: RTS

Posted: 2005-02-19 12:41pm
by Ghost Rider
Lord Pounder wrote:
Tychu wrote:
wautd wrote: No

But I have high expectations for the one that is coming out soon
i hope Empire: At war comes to the consoles, im not a PC gamer i hate PC games
RTS's aren't that good on consoles. Hard to point anc click with a joy pad.
They proved that all too well with Starcraft. Gods that was an abomination.

as for Empire at war...it looks pretty nice, wonder if it will have the needed doodads to compete in today's market aside from the SW label.

Re: RTS

Posted: 2005-02-19 12:49pm
by Stofsk
Ghost Rider wrote:
Lord Pounder wrote:RTS's aren't that good on consoles. Hard to point anc click with a joy pad.
They proved that all too well with Starcraft. Gods that was an abomination.
:shock: RTS on a console? Sacrilege! :shock:

My god, who was the einstein who came up with THAT genius concept? :wtf:

Posted: 2005-02-19 01:10pm
by Dartzap
Hey! I enjoyed playing C&C: Red Alert on my old PS :P