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Star Destroyer Self Suficiency
Posted: 2005-02-24 04:07pm
by Darth Sephiroth
If a Star Destroyer's Hyperdrive malfunctioned in a way that it was stranded in an unknown system with a planet capable of sustaining human life, along with the hyperdrive being disabled all way to signal for help or communcate with the outside galaxy is cut off, the ship is presumed destroyed and they do know that, and the planet is inhabited by a rather small group of near humans, what happens, would they be able to afix repairs, or what, especially if all of their hyperdrives were destroyed as well.
Posted: 2005-02-24 04:19pm
by Gunhead
Yes they could. ISD can survive a year before running out of consumables. They can even build a base on the planet and dump all non essential personel there, while repairing their ship. Also shuttles and other jump capable craft can fly recon on nearby systems so they get a picture where they are.
To put it shortly they are in no immediate danger.
-Gunhead
Posted: 2005-02-24 04:25pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
NTM the shuttles could simply send for help.
Posted: 2005-02-24 04:48pm
by Praxis
Gunhead wrote:Yes they could. ISD can survive a year before running out of consumables. They can even build a base on the planet and dump all non essential personel there, while repairing their ship. Also shuttles and other jump capable craft can fly recon on nearby systems so they get a picture where they are.
To put it shortly they are in no immediate danger.
-Gunhead
And if they have all non-essential personnel executed (if someone like Vader or Palpy is in charge), they could last decades :p
Posted: 2005-02-24 04:59pm
by Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba
A Star Destroyer can survive a year in SPACE with no support. With a habitable planet next to them, this will be easy. There's a pre-fabricated base on any given star destroyer, so they can build that, send support craft down and use their veritable legions of crewmen, soldiers, and droids to get any supplies they need to do repairs.
Posted: 2005-02-24 05:03pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
According to the D6 stats, ISDs actually have six years worth of consumables.
Posted: 2005-02-24 05:12pm
by Batman
I'm actually a little dubious about that. Can they survive virtually forever? Easily. Can they fix a completely destroyed hyperdrive? They easily have years of consumables and the ability to peretuate their existence. They are almost inevitably able to make routine repairs on the hyperdrive (I refuse to believe any system can regularly undergo years of service with no maintenance whatsoever). So I guess wether or not they can fix it depends on the nature of the problem. This isn't a versus but just for convenience's sake let's make it an act of Q. The hyperdrive is completely intact. It's also in another galaxy. IT's gone in its entirety. Can they build a new one with the resources at hand? I doubt it.
Posted: 2005-02-24 05:16pm
by Gunhead
Ok, so they blow it all in drunken party since nobody's watching. When they're down to a years worth of supplies they get off their fat asses and actually repair their ship and go home. Then they file for a shore leave for being on duty for 3 years without a break. Propably for some medals and promotions too. Then they try to get lost again.
-Gunhead
Posted: 2005-02-24 06:57pm
by Cabwi Desco
a more important question. so they can live for a year with no outside contact, but what percent of a SD crew is female? i mean sure most of the stormies have killed sex drives, but what about the officers and crew? that'd be sheer madness. i mean even SD crews get shore leave. morale would plummet!
one last thing, doesnt a stardestroyer have a back-up hyperdrive? i would think with a ship that large they would have a back-up.
Posted: 2005-02-24 07:05pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
If there is a "near-human" population on the planet, that solves the "sex drive" issues.
Posted: 2005-02-24 07:24pm
by consequences
Building 'Conjugal Visit' droids may be possible out of shipboard resources.
Posted: 2005-02-24 09:20pm
by Sea Skimmer
Cabwi Desco wrote:
one last thing, doesnt a stardestroyer have a back-up hyperdrive? i would think with a ship that large they would have a back-up.
It does, and even the rather small Millennium Falcon has a backup drive as well. It's a pretty standard feature for anything bigger then a starfighter. But Sephiroth specified that all other hyperdrives are destroyed as well
Posted: 2005-02-24 09:42pm
by Knife
Damaged? Yes, they could concivable fix it. Totally FUBARed? No, doubt the SD has the resources to create a brand new Hyperdrive.
Either way, though, it is really not a problem since the SD has auxillary vesseles aboard that have hyperdrive and can send them out for help.
I can't find the NJO map, but since the shuttle Typherium went from Sullest to Endor, it seems it has the range to make quite a few systems 'within range' depending on exactly where they are.
Posted: 2005-02-24 09:53pm
by Admiral Drason
About the sex drive.
Even though the Novels keep on saying that the imperial forces are sexist we still se a rather large number of females comanding warships. Those women had to have come from some place. Even if there arent 50% female crewmembers there still have to be a couple of thousand of em on the ship.
Posted: 2005-02-24 10:14pm
by Elheru Aran
*Considers* If the chicks play their cards right... they could make a
killing... imagine how much horny guys would be willing to pay for a half-hour of fucking!
Posted: 2005-02-24 10:16pm
by consequences
Elheru Aran wrote:*Considers* If the chicks play their cards right... they could make a
killing... imagine how much horny guys would be willing to pay for a half-hour of fucking!
They may already be doing that under normal conditions. The U.S.military doesn't just issue free condoms for the water balloon fights.
Posted: 2005-02-24 10:46pm
by Knife
consequences wrote:Elheru Aran wrote:*Considers* If the chicks play their cards right... they could make a
killing... imagine how much horny guys would be willing to pay for a half-hour of fucking!
They may already be doing that under normal conditions. The U.S.military doesn't just issue free condoms for the water balloon fights.
My understanding of the female crew of modern carriers are doing a good job of getting pregnate durring deployments too. I could be wrong, but I remember seeing articles on the issue.
Posted: 2005-02-24 11:10pm
by Junghalli
With a handy habitable world nearby they should be able to survive indefinitely. The ship would break down eventually though. They could probably transplant some high technology to the planet's society, but depending on how hard it is to build a hyperdrive it might be years or centuries before they can start working on a new starship or repair the old one.
I don't think a year with no female contact would be too huge of a problem at first. Face it, a lot of people go through a good deal longer than a year with no sex before they loose their virginity. It would be if they're going to spend an appreciable fraction of their lives trying to build a new hyperdrive though.
How human-looking does "near-human" mean? If it's Trek-like near-human that might solve that problem anyway (the Sky Gods demand your virgins!
).
Posted: 2005-02-25 12:18am
by Enforcer Talen
nearhuman appears to mean anything from st.
Posted: 2005-02-26 02:59pm
by Darth Sephiroth
I think in SW that Near Human means that they originally came from humans according to what I've read though most of that comes from the D20 RPG. Basically, I was thinking about some anomaly that completely ruins all the hyperdrives when they passed through it similarly to what happened to lukes X-wing in the Thrawn trillogy except it did in all of the hyperdrives and wiped their nav charts. Or say it was an Interdictor or Lancer or something, just looking for something that would make an interesting fic.
Posted: 2005-02-26 03:50pm
by Spartan
Indeed the concept was already made into an excellent fan-fic. Look here:
http://www.daltonator.net/fanfics/stori ... isd.txt.gz
The relative strengths of SW and ST are woefully out of date but the story is still outstanding.