Stray turbolaser bolts and ecological damage

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2002-11-20 10:31pm

Uh would'nt the HTL bolts that missed and went in the direction of Endor cause massive damage?

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2002-11-20 10:34pm

Endor was fucked anyhow by the destruction of the second Death Star. I doubt a single HTL bolt would matter much.

Thats a pretty weak attempt to dismiss the fact of SW firepower, btw. Its been used before.

Why not try mentioning "Darksaber" instead?

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2002-11-20 10:36pm

What's darksaber?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-20 11:28pm

Pu-239 wrote:Uh would'nt the HTL bolts that missed and went in the direction of Endor cause massive damage?

Neither fleet was in front of Endor during the initial capital ship battle. Unless someone really fucked up the shots should have traveled out into space. During the bombardment of the Death Star shots could have missed and hit Endor, but the odds of missing a mostly solid 900-kilometer diameter target at close range are rather low.

pecker · Post by **pecker** » 2002-11-20 11:42pm

Endor wasn't fucked by the debris, obviously. Anybody who believes that has too much time on their hands and/or is WAY too cynical.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-21 12:08am

pecker wrote:Endor wasn't fucked by the debris, obviously. Anybody who believes that has too much time on their hands and/or is WAY too cynical.

Look at curtis saxtons' site. Endor is dead as a door nail.

Sardaukar · Post by **Sardaukar** » 2002-11-21 12:37am

To hell with Saxton's Endor Holocaust. [opinion] The sanctuary moon had a planetary shield, that wasn't linked to the DS2's shield, that remained operational throughout the battle and protected from the DS2's explosion [/opinion]

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-21 12:42am

Sardaukar wrote:To hell with Saxton's Endor Holocaust. [opinion] The sanctuary moon had a planetary shield, that wasn't linked to the DS2's shield, that remained operational throughout the battle and protected from the DS2's explosion [/opinion]

It's possible and I'd like to believe it but there's no much of an argument to it. The best you've got is the Tydyrium passing through a shield and the EU. Neither is overwhelimng evidence in favor of a healthy Endor.

Sardaukar · Post by **Sardaukar** » 2002-11-21 12:44am

Tyderium passing through a shield is enough for me.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-21 12:49am

Sardaukar wrote:Tyderium passing through a shield is enough for me.

But can you prove it's not the same sheild take out later? Really there's no evidence of a sheild that would save Endor.

Sardaukar · Post by **Sardaukar** » 2002-11-21 12:58am

No I can't prove it.
I have to make an assumption.

Although I can prove that the DS2 shield doesn't protect the moon (briefing room hologram graphics), so if the moon does have a shield it's seperate to the DS2 shield.
Nothing says it doesn't have a shield, but also nothing says that it was fucked up by debris from the DS2. (except opinions)

Does the novel of ROTJ say anything about a shield for the sanctuary moon? I haven't read any of the novels for the OT.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-21 01:11am

Sardaukar wrote:No I can't prove it.
I have to make an assumption.

Although I can prove that the DS2 shield doesn't protect the moon (briefing room hologram graphics), so if the moon does have a shield it's seperate to the DS2 shield.
Nothing says it doesn't have a shield, but also nothing says that it was fucked up by debris from the DS2. (except opinions)

Does the novel of ROTJ say anything about a shield for the sanctuary moon? I haven't read any of the novels for the OT.

It says nothing about an idependent sheild.

And he's done the research. It's what would happen, given that it's the result of canon it can't be argued with.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-11-21 01:14am

Ah, the Endor Holocaust, Saxton's most controvertial topic.

I believe it, by the way. I don't accept hopefull bullshit, either.

jenat-lai · Post by **jenat-lai** » 2002-11-21 01:27am

I'v got a hopeful quote from the movie itself, but I'll have to do it tomorow, have to leave right now...

Sardaukar · Post by **Sardaukar** » 2002-11-21 01:30am

Well, sorry for questioning Saxton, the allmighty Lord of Star Wars. I really should know better...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-11-21 01:32am

Sardaukar wrote:Well, sorry for questioning Saxton, the allmighty Lord of Star Wars. I really should know better...

You can question him, he's not omnipotent. But sheer hope isn't anything compared to a factual analysis of canon. You don't have a leg to stand on so go home and cry about it.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-21 03:09am

Stormbringer wrote:
pecker wrote:Endor wasn't fucked by the debris, obviously. Anybody who believes that has too much time on their hands and/or is WAY too cynical.
Look at curtis saxtons' site. Endor is dead as a door nail.

No, it's alive.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-21 03:12am

In DFR thee find the MF in orbit around Endor and Thrawn wonders how desperate Leia is if she's down there hiding in the Ewok village.

Now the rings can explain this, what if they are also a security feature to prevent massive collateral damage(to planets and friendly ships) incase of destruction and they carry most of the debris along that plane?

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-11-21 04:48am

The EU says Endor is alive. Therefore it's alive. Pure canon- Endor is fucked. But EU is part of the continuity. Therefore, Endor is not fucked. KJA had Kyp Durron go down to Endor to visit Vader's funeral pyre IIRC

*all scream at those three awful letters*

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-21 04:56am

Meh, so what?
Maybe it had backup shields for the planet itself, maybe whatever, it's not important.

Sardaukar · Post by **Sardaukar** » 2002-11-21 07:38am

canon says endor has a shield
eu says endor survives
saxton says endor dies

that's all there is to it

canon + eu > saxton

arctic_series · Post by **arctic_series** » 2002-11-21 07:59am

common sense > sardaukar's lame reasoning

Sardaukar · Post by **Sardaukar** » 2002-11-21 08:07am

It's not common sense to just accept Saxton's views without considering that Endor had a shield protecting it from the DS2 explosion.

Sure the DS2 shield may have been protecting an area around the generator, but the shuttle probably didn't land too close to the Imperial base, so it may have been out of that particular shield generator's range.
EU states that Endor was fine, canon implies that the moon had it's own shield and shows that the Ewok villiage was fine just after the DS2 exploded. Why the hell would eveyone land on Endor and have a damn party if the DS2's debris is raining down on them?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-21 08:07am

It's frickin' canon for gods sake...

pecker · Post by **pecker** » 2002-11-21 08:37am

Stormbringer wrote:
pecker wrote:Endor wasn't fucked by the debris, obviously. Anybody who believes that has too much time on their hands and/or is WAY too cynical.
Look at curtis saxtons' site. Endor is dead as a door nail.

I have. He's wrong.

Don't get me started on Saxton.

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