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The creatures of StarWars....
Posted: 2005-03-15 11:04am
by DV8R
Who is the ultimate StarWars Creature?
If they were all to placed into Arena which creature would come out victorious? We are not including the sea creatures.
Fambaa
Aklay
Bantha
Kouhun
Nexu
Orray (Creature on Left)
Reek
Krayt Dragon
Wampa
Rancor
Posted: 2005-03-15 11:13am
by Robert Walper
Rancor! All the way...the only other one I'd worry about would be the damn little insects with their lethal bite.
Posted: 2005-03-15 11:18am
by Praxis
Rancor! The only one who could threaten him would be Reek.
Posted: 2005-03-15 11:25am
by Robert Walper
Praxis wrote:Rancor! The only one who could threaten him would be Reek.
I think the Reek might piss the Rancor off with a few hits to the groin, but other than that..
Posted: 2005-03-15 11:55am
by Sir Sirius
Krayr Dragon, the one seen on Dantooine in KotOR was frigging huge.
Posted: 2005-03-15 01:24pm
by Assassin X
Krayt Dragon. In Galaxies at least everyone knew it was like the "Uber" trophy that teams of only super "uber" people could take down.\
Persoanlly though i like the Aklay, it reminds of the creature(cant remember name now) from Straship Troopers(bugs). It would make a nice body guard.
Posted: 2005-03-15 01:40pm
by Mange
The Rancor definitely, but the Aklay comes in as a close second.
Posted: 2005-03-15 01:40pm
by Sriad
Didn't that Tales of Bounty Hunters book have a story where Jaba had the Rancor fight a Kryat Dragon? Maybe not, it's been a long time since I read it, and it isn't very high on the cannon scale.
Posted: 2005-03-15 01:52pm
by El Moose Monstero
Hang on, where's that image of C3PO and the krayt dragon from? Is that an addition on the new DVD's? I don't remember seeing that back on the old special edition VHS.
Re: The creatures of StarWars....
Posted: 2005-03-15 02:16pm
by DV8R
So people agree it comes down to the two of these creatures in the end.
Aklay
Rancor[/quote]
Be an interesting fight, the Aklay is much faster, and can also ram object much harder than the Reek. We was in Episode II, the Aklay knocked down the huge cement pillar when it was after OB1, yet the Reek rammed it full speed at Anakin and bouced off it with no damage.
I think the rancor would have the upper hand if it would actually catch the Aklay, but the aklay, even grasped by the racor can easily slash with its knive like limbs.
Although I like the Rancor alot, I think the Acklay would win in this incident, we saw in ROTJ that the Rancor was slow, like a big babe when Luke hit a rock on its finger. In Episode II, OBI throws a pole-valt at the Aklay, it simply pulled it out and snapped it in two - and didn't wimp out.
Is the Aklay were to take a run at the Rancor, it could possible knock it off its feet, afterall it broke a huge cement pillar. and simply trample it while stabbing at the same time.
Also remember that the Aklay can stand on both hind legs and attack using its front legs and slash at the rancor if it tried to grab it, possibly slashing the Rancors arms.
It could possbly take a run at the rancor fro, the rear and litterally walk up its back because it will simply stab its limbs for grip and it climbed causing massive wounds. while stabbing the rancor to death.
We also seen in ROTJ that the rancor is weak in the head, the metal gates pinned it and crushed it so it couldnt breath and suffocated.
The Aklay has armor around its head, also insect like creatures breath through their skin, you cannot suffocate it. So even if the rancor were to grasp te Aklay by the throat, other than discomfort the Aklay is still fully functional.
This is a quote from the official star wars site:
"The acklay was a prized specimen delivered decades ago, and the Geonosians took to breeding them for arena entertainment. Escaped acklays have resulted in the deaths of entire hives, and the spiny creatures quickly carved themselves a niche in the brutal Geonosian ecology. They have infested the shallow filmy brine of the Ebon Sea, becoming the dominant predator of the area.
The acklay is well equipped for survival in the harshest of environs. Its long postcranial frill not only serves as a display of aggression, but also protects the sensitive neck area from attacks. While the acklay itself lacks armor, its limbs are long enough that it can swipe from a safe distance. The acklay's foreward slashing claws are actually hypertrophied fingertips sheathed in hardened skin incapable of feeling pain. "
What your opinions?
Posted: 2005-03-15 02:28pm
by wolveraptor
the acklay couldn't possibly breath through its skin. ever wonder why insects DON'T become as big as acklays? they breath through holes in their abdomens. the larger they get, the more oxygen they need, and their exoskeletons would need more holes that swiss cheese. the skeleton would be paper thin.
i still think that a giant Krayt dragon, the kind that swims through the sand with 10 legs, would dominate through sheer size.
Posted: 2005-03-15 02:34pm
by DV8R
unbeataBULL wrote:the acklay couldn't possibly breath through its skin. ever wonder why insects DON'T become as big as acklays? they breath through holes in their abdomens. the larger they get, the more oxygen they need, and their exoskeletons would need more holes that swiss cheese. the skeleton would be paper thin.
i still think that a giant Krayt dragon, the kind that swims through the sand with 10 legs, would dominate through sheer size.
I think you have a good point there - there is a reason why insects don't get that big to begin with - but one can argue the Geonosians are also insects, fairly large in size, yet you don't see them gasping for air either like if they had lungs. We don't know for certain if the Aklay even breathes oxygen or the Geonosians, or if their environment has a higher oxygen level in the natural air. So I guess we can't really use the breathing argument - but taking that out of the equation, I still think the Aklay has the upper hand on this? What do you think?
Posted: 2005-03-15 02:38pm
by DV8R
DV8R wrote:unbeataBULL wrote:the acklay couldn't possibly breath through its skin. ever wonder why insects DON'T become as big as acklays? they breath through holes in their abdomens. the larger they get, the more oxygen they need, and their exoskeletons would need more holes that swiss cheese. the skeleton would be paper thin.
i still think that a giant Krayt dragon, the kind that swims through the sand with 10 legs, would dominate through sheer size.
I think you have a good point there - there is a reason why insects don't get that big to begin with - but one can argue the Geonosians are also insects, fairly large in size, yet you don't see them gasping for air either like if they had lungs. We don't know for certain if the Aklay even breathes oxygen or the Geonosians, or if their environment has a higher oxygen level in the natural air. So I guess we can't really use the breathing argument - but taking that out of the equation, I still think the Aklay has the upper hand on this? What do you think?
However - the Geonosians talk. This would imply that they have a vocal cord and are using lungs to force air to speak... So maybe a half truth here.. interesting
Posted: 2005-03-15 02:57pm
by wolveraptor
that's true. they don't necessarily breathe O2.
but how can you argue that they're just like insects of earth, when they don't even breath oxygen?
it's pretty clear that geonosians expell air from their mouths. they could have lungs hidden under their wings, or something. we really haven't gotten a clear look at them.
it should be noted that none of the humans walking around on geonosis had any trouble breathing. this points to a rather earth-like atmosphere. unless creatures are breathing nitrogen, or something else, i think its safe to say that they also breathe oxygen.
it coudln't be 100% oxygen though. otherwise, we'd die at age 45. oxygen messes with other molecules. it causes cancer in old age.
Posted: 2005-03-15 04:56pm
by The Original Nex
unbeataBULL wrote:the acklay couldn't possibly breath through its skin. ever wonder why insects DON'T become as big as acklays? they breath through holes in their abdomens. the larger they get, the more oxygen they need, and their exoskeletons would need more holes that swiss cheese. the skeleton would be paper thin.
One problem, Acklay aren't insectoids.
Re: The creatures of StarWars....
Posted: 2005-03-16 11:47pm
by Molyneux
DV8R wrote:
We also seen in ROTJ that the rancor is weak in the head, the metal gates pinned it and crushed it so it couldnt breath and suffocated.
The Aklay has armor around its head, also insect like creatures breath through their skin, you cannot suffocate it. So even if the rancor were to grasp te Aklay by the throat, other than discomfort the Aklay is still fully functional.
This is a quote from the official star wars site:
"The acklay was a prized specimen delivered decades ago, and the Geonosians took to breeding them for arena entertainment. Escaped acklays have resulted in the deaths of entire hives, and the spiny creatures quickly carved themselves a niche in the brutal Geonosian ecology. They have infested the shallow filmy brine of the Ebon Sea, becoming the dominant predator of the area.
The acklay is well equipped for survival in the harshest of environs. Its long postcranial frill not only serves as a display of aggression, but also protects the sensitive neck area from attacks. While the acklay itself lacks armor, its limbs are long enough that it can swipe from a safe distance. The acklay's foreward slashing claws are actually hypertrophied fingertips sheathed in hardened skin incapable of feeling pain. "
What your opinions?
Keep in mind, the Rancor (at least as far as I can remember) was actually an immature member of the species...and given their relative sizes, I'd say that the rancor would probably beat the Acklay hands-down.
Now, a Rancor versus a Krayt Dragon would be great to watch...and hard to predict. If only we saw a living Krayt in the films, it'd be easier to gauge their relative abilities...
Posted: 2005-03-17 01:33am
by Lone_Prodigy
From what I remember, they are supposed to be about 10 meters tall and 30 meters long for the "Canyon" Krayt Dragon. "Desert" Krayts are the type that was shown by the skeleton in ANH. Measuring 100 meters from head to tail, it has a very long neck and ten powerful legs. It typically buries itself inside a sand dune to wait from prey, then springs out and tears it apart.
Posted: 2005-03-17 01:45am
by Mlenk
In some of the Novels I've read, the Krayt Dragon is often referred to as the or one of the deadliest creatures in the SW galaxy.
Posted: 2005-03-17 02:48am
by Praxis
Mlenk wrote:In some of the Novels I've read, the Krayt Dragon is often referred to as the or one of the deadliest creatures in the SW galaxy.
Actually I'd think that would be the Dovin Basal that wiped out Sernpidal
Posted: 2005-03-17 03:01am
by Darth Lucifer
After playing KOTOR, I have to go with the Krayt Dragon, although a Rancor would definitely fuck him up if he had a significant speed advantage. From what I remember, the KD was pretty slow.
Posted: 2005-03-17 03:10am
by GeneralTacticus
Well, that particular dragon had only recently come out of hibernation, so one might expect it to be a bit slow.
Posted: 2005-03-17 05:24am
by Molyneux
Can we agree that either the rancor or the krayt would most likely be able to take out the acklay fairly easily?
(Especially with the hide-in-a-sand-dune variant of the dragon, if it's in its native habitat...the acklay would be trying to walk across sand, putting all its weight on six points - it would barely be able to move!)
Posted: 2005-03-17 06:51am
by DarkSilver
going through the list, and by having seen one in KOTOR, I'd give this fight to the Krayt Dragon.
that fucker was huge. It was slow, granted, but it had just woken up from hibernation, I don't beleive even a Rancor could defeat a fully grown "Canyon" Krayt, much less a "Dune" Krayt.
Everything, EVERYTHING I've ever heard about those big lizards say thier the biggest, baddest mamma jamma in the Wars Galaxy. Rancors come in close Second.
Bantha's are feed for a Krayt. So no contest, the Akley, the Reek and the Nexu are fodder once they get near the dragon, either stomped flat or chewed alive. The kouhun might piss some of the others off, but they'd be trampled underfoot should they not move fast enough. And the Wampa, pft, unless your putting them in snowy environment for the battle, it's worthless.
Yes, the Dragon wins.
And before going with a concensus, give more than 8 people a chance to respond before determining something of this nature. would ya please?
Posted: 2005-03-17 08:51am
by Shroom Man 777
Could someone tell me how exactly could a Rancor kill the Acklay?
Posted: 2005-03-17 09:31am
by NecronLord
There is a good reason entire tribes of tuskens run like hell when they hear a Kyrat Dragon.