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General plot questions from Clone Wars chpt 21 to 25.

Posted: 2005-04-03 12:23am
by Rommie2006
No spoilers for ROTS as usual please. Many thanks.



I've got some general plot questions that I still cant figure out:

1)Anakin's scar on his face. How did he get it? It was never shown on screen.
2)The change from clonetroopers to stormtroopers was never justified in the cartoon. Those stormtroopers we see on chapter 22 onwards, are they still clones from Kamino or raw noobish recruits that make up the Galactic Empire stormtroopers?
3)Anakin's final "test". This whole part is so contrived. Did the jedi council intentionally send obiwan and anakin to that backwater frozen planet for anakin's final "test"? (note that Palpy was pushing them to go). Or did they really had something to investigate? And why did Obi wan sent out anakin alone? Would it not be dangerous if he really met a trade federation droid army?

Re: General plot questions from Clone Wars chpt 21 to 25.

Posted: 2005-04-03 12:30am
by Lone_Prodigy
I'll do my best to answer the second and third– number one I don't knwo.
Rommie2006 wrote:2)The change from clonetroopers to stormtroopers was never justified in the cartoon. Those stormtroopers we see on chapter 22 onwards, are they still clones from Kamino or raw noobish recruits that make up the Galactic Empire stormtroopers?
They're simply the usual clones in updated armor suits, straight from Kamino like usual except that this is the third generation.
Rommie2006 wrote:3)Anakin's final "test". This whole part is so contrived. Did the jedi council intentionally send obiwan and anakin to that backwater frozen planet for anakin's final "test"? (note that Palpy was pushing them to go). Or did they really had something to investigate? And why did Obi wan sent out anakin alone? Would it not be dangerous if he really met a trade federation droid army?
The Force guided them to go there– it was the base that had created/modified Grievous after all, since it had his schematics there. Obi sensed that Anakin needed to do this alone in order to truly become a Jedi, and simply followed the Force's will.

Re: General plot questions from Clone Wars chpt 21 to 25.

Posted: 2005-04-03 12:49am
by Dorsk 81
Rommie2006 wrote:1)Anakin's scar on his face. How did he get it? It was never shown on screen.
Unknown. Some point after he is Knighted, he shows up on Naboo to see Padme and he has the scar. There might be a comic or another EU source, but if there is, I haven't seen it.
2)The change from clonetroopers to stormtroopers was never justified in the cartoon. Those stormtroopers we see on chapter 22 onwards, are they still clones from Kamino or raw noobish recruits that make up the Galactic Empire stormtroopers?
I'm fairly sure there was a source posted on here somewhere that says ALL the troops involved in the Clone Wars are clones and that Civilians don't start making their way into the ranks until the Republic becomes the Empire. Damned if I can find it though.
3)Anakin's final "test". This whole part is so contrived. Did the jedi council intentionally send obiwan and anakin to that backwater frozen planet for anakin's final "test"? (note that Palpy was pushing them to go). Or did they really had something to investigate? And why did Obi wan sent out anakin alone? Would it not be dangerous if he really met a trade federation droid army?
Mace didn't seem really opposed to them going, he just seemed unsure about how good the intel was. I doubt the Council knew Anakin would have faced his final test then and there, but it was a bonus that his spirit was tested while on the mission to find/destroy Gervious, hence Obi letting him go solo. Yea, sure, if Anakin had stumbled across an army, it wouldn't be too groovy, but considering what we know the more powerful Jedi, like Mace, are capable of doing, it wouldn't have been too much of a problem for him to escape, run back to Obi and say "Oh, yea, you know all those troops up on our ships in orbit? Tell them to land would you?"

Posted: 2005-04-03 05:51am
by Old Plympto
1 - Asajj Ventress, IIRC, gave it to him in one of the comics, Star Wars Republic... I can't recall which issue. Actual issue number, anyone?

Posted: 2005-04-03 06:10am
by VT-16
he shows up on Naboo
I don´t think that planet was Naboo, it seemed to be orbiting a gas giant. or the artist drew a shitty-looking giant moon. :P

I think he fights Asajj in Republic #74 where he gets that scar. Since the scar is in the movie as well, that makes her semi-G-canon. :P

Posted: 2005-04-03 06:20am
by Gorefiend
It's Republic #71 in fact, Anikan is not in #74 at all. ;]

Posted: 2005-04-05 08:34pm
by The Original Nex
raw noobish recruits that make up the Galactic Empire stormtroopers?
The Stormtroopers of the Empire were mostly clones, not "raw, noobish recruits."

Posted: 2005-04-05 08:37pm
by Admiral Felire
2)The change from clonetroopers to stormtroopers was never justified in the cartoon. Those stormtroopers we see on chapter 22 onwards, are they still clones from Kamino or raw noobish recruits that make up the Galactic Empire stormtroopers?
I thought that it was mentioned that by this time multiple 'strains' were being used. Though I am not sure if this happened once the Republic became the Empire.

Posted: 2005-04-05 08:38pm
by The Original Nex
Admiral Felire wrote:
2)The change from clonetroopers to stormtroopers was never justified in the cartoon. Those stormtroopers we see on chapter 22 onwards, are they still clones from Kamino or raw noobish recruits that make up the Galactic Empire stormtroopers?
I thought that it was mentioned that by this time multiple 'strains' were being used. Though I am not sure if this happened once the Republic became the Empire.
Not until after RotS

Posted: 2005-04-05 09:43pm
by Vympel
VT-16 wrote:
I think he fights Asajj in Republic #74 where he gets that scar. Since the scar is in the movie as well, that makes her semi-G-canon. :P
Her name's in the RotS novelization, more than once.

Posted: 2005-04-05 11:35pm
by Old Plympto
If I had the novelization, I'd have thread up on EU --> Canon jumps. Like Asajj Ventress, Carracks, Dreadnaughts, Saesee Tiin's Sharp Spiral (I think Bail mentioned it, I read in an excerpt), etc.

Posted: 2005-04-09 03:46pm
by Manus Celer Dei
Quick question: Who's the cyborg (?) dude with the lance in chap.4?

Posted: 2005-04-09 04:52pm
by Lone_Prodigy
Durge, a bounty hunter of a long-lived alien species. Basically he's like a bunch of worms that work together with a hive mind to become one cohesive organism, and as we know he is very difficult to kill.