Questions about New Jedi Order Ships

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-11-26 03:13pm

i just started reading Vector Prime, it's been so-so till now. But i have a few questions

What is the difference between a normal x-Wing and a XJ X-Wing

Also what are the specs of the Mon Cal Star Defender? Can any one provide a pic?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-11-26 05:12pm

No pictures exist of the Star Defender. The NJO source book may have specifications, but if it does I've never heard them. However no one seems to have that book either. Though if it did have them I'm sure they would have made it online by now.

The improved X-Wing's main upgrades are stutter fire lasers, three more proton torpedoes, and shields that can't be as easily ripped away by Vong doval bassals

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-26 07:42pm

Fair amount of difference actually. I once saw a model someone made based on the descriptions, and it was quite a bit better looking. Instead of the 4 seperate engines, it had pairs connected as one main engine with 4 thrust things.

Assuming you want the XJ and not the XJ3...
It is 13 meters instead of the standard 12.5, and has a stronger hull. It packs 3 launchers with 3 torps each, and has heavy lasers instead of hte standard ones. It is now possibly the fastest ship they have (the X-AC4 was as fast as an A-wing circa ROTJ was and this is a generation beyond) and is on par with the latest E-wings for manuvering. It has MUCH less cargo space, only 25 Kg, and only 3 days of supplies as opposed to the weeks worth the other models had.

Now the XJ3, that is a badass.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-26 07:44pm

Oh, and nothing on the Viscount and Mediator class Star Defenders.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-26 09:02pm

The X-J X-Wing is slightly larger than the older models, is more powerful, has an additional, centrally mounted torpedo launcher with another three torpedoes, and is much faster than older models.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-11-26 09:31pm

*drools over taking that thing for a spin on Rogue Leader's Endurance mission*

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-27 04:34am

Ender wrote:Now the XJ3, that is a badass.

What about it?
Info! Need info!

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-27 09:55am

Basically, like the others, It quite a bit faster then an A-wing, one of the most manuverable ships out there, packs 12 heavy torps, has a double shield system, has the 4 heavy lasers, a stronger hull, has 35 KG cargo, is 12.6 meters long and might mount some active ECM depending on how you interperate certain NJO bits.

Easily gives the Defender a run for it's money in my opinion, and is going into full production.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-11-27 10:52am

anarchistbunny wrote:*drools over taking that thing for a spin on Rogue Leader's Endurance mission*

I always preferred the N-1 for that mission. But the XJs are cool.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-11-28 02:11pm

I just finished Vector Prime, it wasn't bad compared to other EU but killing chewie? thats criminal. the Vong's idea of using organic machines isn't original. I remember in the Jedi Accadamy trillogy that the Mon Cal's used jelli-fish as re-breathers under water. same with Organic Ships, that idea reeks of Nemisis from 2000AD.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-11-28 02:23pm

Darth Pounder wrote:I just finished Vector Prime, it wasn't bad compared to other EU but killing chewie? thats criminal. the Vong's idea of using organic machines isn't original. I remember in the Jedi Accadamy trillogy that the Mon Cal's used jelli-fish as re-breathers under water. same with Organic Ships, that idea reeks of Nemisis from 2000AD.

Yeah well, with some exceptions I like how they pulled off the whole organic thingie.

As for poor chewie, Lucas gave permission to kill him.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-28 02:45pm

Chewie was never well used by any author. It makes sense to kill him, particularily since what we got out of it was much better. Anyone who read the Chewbacca comic would be hard pressed to claim that was not a great book.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-28 02:51pm

Only author that really bothered utilizing Chewie really was the guy who wrote the Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy...and we all know how much that was hated.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-11-28 02:57pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:
anarchistbunny wrote:*drools over taking that thing for a spin on Rogue Leader's Endurance mission*
I always preferred the N-1 for that mission. But the XJs are cool.

I don't like the N-1 for ship to ship combat but more like attacking larger targets. I find it too hard to hit a TIE with the centered lasers and keep up a good accuracy, which is why I like the X wings laser spread. I've accually take the two SD's in the Battle of Endor mission out with one life with the N-1, I was so fucking glad I was done with the level. Then I got Bobed by a Interceptor and lost. Pissed me the fuck off. I'd accually use the B-Wing more for ship to ship because it's so easy to shake off any following ships with it's brakes, but I get bobed all the damn time in it.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-11-28 09:35pm

At least Chewie got a GOOD death scene. It took some heavy shit to bump him off... they dropped a moon on him!

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-11-29 02:38am

Ender wrote:Chewie was never well used by any author. It makes sense to kill him, particularily since what we got out of it was much better. Anyone who read the Chewbacca comic would be hard pressed to claim that was not a great book.

Zahn used him quite well in the Thrawn trilogy.

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2002-11-29 07:45am

Seeing Chewie and the Vong together in one thread brought a question to mind. How effective are bowcasters against Vong armor?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-11-29 07:46am

And that was only for a bit, and Zahn had to ditch him in SOTP/VOTF.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-11-29 05:04pm

anarchistbunny wrote:I don't like the N-1 for ship to ship combat but more like attacking larger targets. I find it too hard to hit a TIE with the centered lasers and keep up a good accuracy, which is why I like the X wings laser spread. I've accually take the two SD's in the Battle of Endor mission out with one life with the N-1, I was so fucking glad I was done with the level. Then I got Bobed by a Interceptor and lost. Pissed me the fuck off. I'd accually use the B-Wing more for ship to ship because it's so easy to shake off any following ships with it's brakes, but I get bobed all the damn time in it.

I agree, the X-wing has a better hit rate, but in Endurance, you only need 8% accuracy for a Gold (that, and surviving all 1,846 enemy craft).

Raxmei wrote:Seeing Chewie and the Vong together in one thread brought a question to mind. How effective are bowcasters against Vong armor?

Not sure. Nobody is shown to use bowcasters since Chewie kicked the bucket.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-11-29 05:06pm

In the original Jedi Knight Tuskans are shown to use Bowcasters, are they actually used by non-wookies?

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-11-29 05:08pm

Darth Pounder, probably. But you need some strength too operate them.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-11-29 05:16pm

I think in read in the manual of Jedi knight that the Bowcaster Kartan was using had an adapter to enable non-wookes to cock it. No puns about that please.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-29 05:20pm

Ender wrote:Chewie was never well used by any author. It makes sense to kill him, particularily since what we got out of it was much better. Anyone who read the Chewbacca comic would be hard pressed to claim that was not a great book.

There's a reason for that. Chewie's character was never developed very well in the movies, and he acted as kind of a support and background character for Han. He was never there in important moments, and was more servile than anything else. Thus, during the books, when authors tried to use him as a main character, their efforts invariably failed. Unlike the other characters, he did not have a fixed personality or agenda from the movies themselves, and so he seemed to be sort of lackadaisical in the books.