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More on the SW TV show (Lucas + McCallum)

Posted: 2005-05-09 12:15am
by Vympel
From Today's Daily Telegraph (Aus)

Shooting in Australia. In between Episodes III and IV. Minor, not key, characters, etc.

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:02am
by VT-16
You do realize which part of that article certain people here will be focusing on, right? :P

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:08am
by Vympel
What, the Death Star taking 20 years to build? It was always obvious to me ever since I first heard about it as a legitimate plot point. I just don't get why anyone cares.

Re: More on the SW TV show (Lucas + McCallum)

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:13am
by Lord Poe
Vympel wrote:From Today's Daily Telegraph (Aus)

Shooting in Australia. In between Episodes III and IV. Minor, not key, characters, etc.
I can't recall exactly where I read it, (sw.com?) but Lucas at first said no key charcters, then corrected himself, saying that wasn't entirely true. I assume he was thinking of Vader. For the TV show, ANYONE could be Vader.

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:18am
by VT-16
It was always obvious to me ever since I first heard about it as a legitimate plot point. I just don't get why anyone cares.
Me neither. It makes perfect sense that the first would take longer to build due to the political climate and the needs of the growing Imperial fleet.

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:18am
by Lord of the Farce
"The Death Star takes 20 years to build so we need to work that out."
Man, those are some lazy construction workers. :D
The intention was to produce 100 hour-long episodes -- that being the number necessary to sell the series into lucrative television syndication.
So roughly five seasons of 20 episodes each?

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:19am
by VT-16
So roughly five seasons of 20 episodes each?
Seems like it, with the entire season 1 written before shooting and filmed all at once.

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:20am
by Stofsk
Lord of the Farce wrote:
"The Death Star takes 20 years to build so we need to work that out."
Man, those are some lazy construction workers. :D
They need some contract workers. 8)
The intention was to produce 100 hour-long episodes -- that being the number necessary to sell the series into lucrative television syndication.
So roughly five seasons of 20 episodes each?
Or possibly four seasons of 25 episodes. Some seasons are 22 episodes in length, others 26 episodes. I don't know if there's a hard and fast rule on season episode quantity though.

But it does look like they want this thing for the long haul.

Posted: 2005-05-09 02:19am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Lord of the Farce wrote:
"The Death Star takes 20 years to build so we need to work that out."
Man, those are some lazy construction workers. :D
Sheesh, unions these days... :roll:

:P

Hey, speaking of Death Star, VT, you think you could ask one of those morons who have seen RotS already how far along the DS is in the movie?

Posted: 2005-05-09 02:55am
by VT-16
I think someone said you can´t really see it cus it´s in the background, I guess it means just an overall skeletal frame or something, if it´s more or less progressed than in that piece of concept art, I don´t know. Frankly, I already have plenty of good reasons that justify the long construction time, so for me this is a non-issue. *


*It could also be explained as a prototype. Heh, if any measurements come up with it being different from both the DS and DS II, you´d have a really interesting case. :wink:

Posted: 2005-05-09 06:18am
by 2000AD
Vympel wrote:What, the Death Star taking 20 years to build?
And yet they can build the bigger, better DS2 in about 9 months in total secrecy.

Either that or they noticed the design flaws in the DS1 and started building the DS2 3 years into DS1 construction.

Posted: 2005-05-09 06:27am
by Utsanomiko
2000AD wrote: Either that or they noticed the design flaws in the DS1 and started building the DS2 3 years into DS1 construction.
Yet continue building the first 'flawed' but still massive battlestation despite being only ~1/7th complete. Our tax credits at work! Figures that the Empire didn't actually change the inefficiency or beauracratic corruption. :P :mrgreen:

Posted: 2005-05-09 06:28am
by VT-16
And yet they can build the bigger, better DS2 in about 9 months in total secrecy.
Amazing what totalitarian rule can do to the allocation of funds. 8)

Posted: 2005-05-09 10:36am
by Crown
VT-16 wrote:
And yet they can build the bigger, better DS2 in about 9 months in total secrecy.
Amazing what totalitarian rule can do to the allocation of funds. 8)
Bet you that Palps took it out of the orphanage funds too ... bastard! :twisted:

Posted: 2005-05-09 10:54am
by Shroom Man 777
2000AD wrote: And yet they can build the bigger, better DS2 in about 9 months in total secrecy.

Either that or they noticed the design flaws in the DS1 and started building the DS2 3 years into DS1 construction.
The Senate was dead. So maybe nothing was stopping Palpy to get the budget he needed?

Posted: 2005-05-09 12:25pm
by Archaic`
Couldn't the intention have always been for the Death Star to serve as something of a smokescreen for the real Death Star?

Posted: 2005-05-09 12:27pm
by Stofsk
Archaic` wrote:Couldn't the intention have always been for the Death Star to serve as something of a smokescreen for the real Death Star?
Why a smokescreen? Maybe it's just the prototype?

Posted: 2005-05-09 12:30pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I don't see how something that was built in secret could be a smokescreen for something else that was also built in secret.

Posted: 2005-05-09 12:52pm
by Crossroads Inc.
Don't forget people, at the end of the day, it IS just a simple movie
<_<
>_>
*flees*

Posted: 2005-05-09 12:57pm
by VT-16
Don't forget people, at the end of the day, it IS just a simple movie
With planet-destroying battle stations that are built quicker and bigger every time. 8)

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:03pm
by Elfdart
VT-16 wrote:
Don't forget people, at the end of the day, it IS just a simple movie
With planet-destroying battle stations that are built quicker and bigger every time. 8)
Maybe once they finished the first one, they finally had the construction down pat and could crank out a new one. Hybrid cars took forever, yet they're much more common now.

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:21pm
by RedImperator
Any number of factors could have been in play to make the DSI take so much longer than the DSII. There's the fact that at the same time the DSI was under construction, the Imperial Navy was also being built, Clone War reconstruction would have been in progress AND Palpatine would have had to make sure that the standard of living for the average citizen didn't suffer while the New Order was a new and fragile thing. Then there's the fact that the Senate still existed and as late as the eve of the Battle of Yavin, it was a formidable enough body for Leia to think she could threaten Vader with it and General Tagge to be worried about them. Keeping a project like the DSII secret from the public in a police state is a much simpler matter than keeping DSI secret from the body that still had de jure control of the purse strings. Then there's the simple fact that they were figuring out this thing as they went along--everything they learned from building the DSI, as well as all the specialized infrastructure designed for it, could have been applied to the DSII.

Re: More on the SW TV show (Lucas + McCallum)

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:33pm
by Mark S
Vympel wrote:From Today's Daily Telegraph (Aus)

Shooting in Australia. In between Episodes III and IV. Minor, not key, characters, etc.
Damn. I was hoping it would be filmed in Vancouver.

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:38pm
by Freeman's Trigger-Finger
Possible scenario:

The DS1 is under construction respectively, and some ways into it' being built, the flaws of the station are realized and the construction of the DSII is initiated accordingly, as the improved and finalised version. Instead of ridding themselves of the DS1, the Empire decide to continue construction of it as a smokescreen carrier to the true weapon, the DSII.

Also, even if the DS1 was inferior and flawed, it still had planet destructive capabilites and was a severe threat to Imperial opposition, much to the Rebels detriment. There would be no logic in abandoning it due to only partial flaws.

Posted: 2005-05-09 01:48pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
That completely contradicts.